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Post by Admin on Sept 30, 2014 9:14:12 GMT
I am ill during the seven days holiday :S :S So I use my time to watch this series have been watching 4 episodes so far. It's really good The story so far : Yong Zheng (4th Prince) hired a voodoo master to harm the 2nd Prince. His younger brother 13th Prince on his behalf admitted this wrongdoing. the 13th prince felt that he's useless The Emperor then punished him by giving him a poisoned drink. Yong Zheng was an ambitious, smart and a cruel prince. I like the scene when he killed the fortune teller who fortune told him that he would become an emperor one day. Smart wicked prince!! LOL I also like the scene when the Emperor found out that YZ had an illegal son, Hong Li (who later become Qian Long), and he scold YZ and said he's shameless and 下流 (indecent? I don't know the right translation for this)
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Post by Admin on Sept 30, 2014 9:19:44 GMT
Btw...Ceng Jing (David Jiang) already appeared. He's helping 14th Prince at this time. It's interesting that he's testing 14th Prince to know his character. At this moment, 14th Prince is a good and righteous man. He disagreed and angry when he heard Ceng Jing said that he killed YZ on his trip to his seclusion.
Nope. I was wrong. Ceng Jing didn't meant to test 14th Prince. He really indeed intended to kill 4th Prince without 14th Prince's consent. Un(fortunately) he wrongly killed a person. The person he killed wasn't Yong Zheng, but one of his guard. Knowing that the one who had the martial art skill to kill someone like that was Ceng Jing, YZ then suspect that it's 14th Prince who sent Ceng Jing to kill him. Yong Zheng then hated 14th Prince because of this reason.
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Post by siuyiu on Sept 30, 2014 17:41:06 GMT
sorry to hear you're not feeling well! but a good time to catch up on series, certainly!
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Post by Admin on Oct 1, 2014 6:32:04 GMT
The name should be Zeng Jing not Ceng Jing Yong Zheng went into seclusion to avoid KangXi anger, who actually could guess that it was him who was behind the black magic stuff against the 2nd Prince. But Kangxi had no evidence, cause the 13th Prince killed the voodoo master and admitted that he's the one behind it. During this seclusion he met Lv Liu Liang, Lv Siniang grandfather. Lv Liu Liang supported Yong Zheng to become the new emperor if Kangxi died. And Lv Siniang was assigned to go to the palace to steal the testament scroll in which Kangxi wrote his successor on it. The scroll was hang on the ceiling of one of the palace. Lv Siniang managed to steal the scroll, and then Yong Zheng, his uncle Long Ke Duo, his trusted general, Nian Gengyao, with the help of Lv Liu Liang changed the scroll and changed the scroll. They changed the word 传位十四子 into 传位第四子. Yong Zheng then came back to the palace and poisoned the ill Kangxi while the 14th Prince was on his military trip with his 300 thousands troops to pacify uprising in Qinghai and Tibet. 14th Prince came back only to find out that YZ already sat on the throne. Somehow he had known before that he was chosen to become emperor. That's why he was not happy, especially because he knew that Yong Zheng was a cruel man who could harm anyone including his own brother. He came back and met Yong Zheng. The scene is very good and impressive Yong Zheng pretended to be happy to see him and said : After a few month you went to Qinghai, you lost weight. And 14th Prince replied : Thank you for your care attention, brother. Then Yong Zheng knew that 14th Prince was somehow knew about that scroll, and he's not happy with it. Yong Zheng then called him using his military name, and 14th Prince heard that, he bowed down and he said that he's ready to accept decree from the emperor. Yong Zheng didn't allow 14th Prince to live at the palace, he asked him to stay at the tent with his soldiers. He also declined 14th Prince request to meet their mother (Yong Zheng and 14th Prince had the same mother). Actually the Empress Dowager (their mother) knew that Yong Zheng illegally changed the scroll and killed KangXi, but she's powerless. 14th Prince depicted as someone who has a mild nature, and kind. (at least until now ) He treated Zeng Jing like his brother. Ng Wai Kwok did a good job. He has the noble look of the young prince. I like the scene when he came to visit Zeng Jing, and he was sleeping on his chair. He didn't want to wake him up. And he looked at Zeng Jing who slept and look tired, and he took off his robe and covered Zeng Jing with his robe. When Zeng Jing told him that he shouldn't bow down in front of Yong Zheng, the illegal emperor, 14th replied and said that he and Yong Zheng bornt from the same father and the same womb. If they hurt each other, he would make his mother sad. Actually so far, until episode 12, 14th Prince is more likely influenced by Zeng Jing. And most of the time Zeng Jing made actions without his approval. Michelle Yim did a very good job. She had a good chemistry with Alex Man. Alex Man really looked like a cunning playboy. He's depicted as a 30 years old prince at this moment. While Lv Siniang was in her late teens or early 20s. Her face expressions is so adorable. She looked at Yong Zheng with the look of admiration and love. While Yong Zheng..he had a lot of experiences with women, but he looked caring and gentle toward her. Good acting from both of them David Chiang looked very slim on this series
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Post by Admin on Oct 1, 2014 7:18:13 GMT
I'm on the episode when in the end 14th Prince abled to meet his mother. His mother told him to leave the capital and go as far away to avoid Yong Zheng. The Empress Dowager implicitly told him that she saw YZ as a wild ambitious ruler. That's why 14th Prince had to flee for his life. She advised him to leave with his 300 thousand troops and built military power. When the time was right, it wouldn't be late for him to get back the throne.
14th Prince then went back to his army camp just to find out that all of his 300 thousand troops were all gone. Yong Zheng had previously assigned Nian Gengyao to disban his troops.
This is a sad scene when 14th Prince looked shocked, sad and desperate to see all his troops had gone.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2014 4:41:23 GMT
The story moved from Zeng Jing and 14th Prince to YZ, Lv Siniang, Hong Li and Han Chong. Han Chong (Bruce Leung) was an imperial guard under Nian Gengyao. He fell in love with Nian Gengyao sister in law. After Nian Gengyao's wife died, his wife wanted him to wed his younger sister. Knowing that this girl fell in love with Han Chong, Nian Gengyao cancelled their wedding. But then YZ who was not happy then deliberately made an imperial decree for Nian Gengyao to get married as soon possible with his sister in law. This made Han Chong left broken hearted. Han Chong's father, Han Senior was a personal bodyguard of Hong Li. He knew the secret of YZ who had an affair outside and had Hong Li. By accident one day Hong Li met his biological mother. His biological mother had another son, called Jia Le (I wonder if he's later become Chen Jia Luo). Hong Li and Jia Le became friends. Hong Li ate alot of osmanthus glutinous rice ball made by his biological mom. He didn't know who she was, but his bodyguard knew who she was. Han senior tried to prevent Hong Li came to that house again, that's why he lied and said that Jia Le's mother got a leprosy and that HongLi might get leprosy too. Hong Li was scared to death. Han Senior tricked him and said that he had to eat some medicine to prevent the disease. Actually he gave Hong Li a lot of garlic that he became smelly LOL So I notice that this series has some humor and jokes inside. But it's funny and not some cheap jokes like current series. Han Chong's father who was angry to YZ then got drunk. 8th and 9th Prince then dug some information from Han Senior. Han Senior who was drunk mentioned about Hong Li who was an illegitimate son of YZ. Because of this, Han Senior was secretly killed by YZ's men, two monks from Tibet. Han Chong himself was on a trip to chase 2nd Prince who took Hong Li as ransom for him to flee to NanNing. 2nd Prince returned back to Beijing to avoid Han Chong. He went to 14th Prince's mansion to get protection. 14th Prince didn't have the heart to expel him out, although Zeng Jing advised him to kill him or to expel him. This made YZ more and more suspicious to him.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2014 7:49:58 GMT
Yong Zheng was really in love with Lv Siniang. Lv Siniang was arranged to marry her childhood friend, Bai Taiguan. But LSN always not happy everytime they talked. No chemistry I guess Bai Taiguan thought that LSN fell in love with Zheng Jing, that's why he left. One day Bai Taiguan went into a prostitution house and at the same time YZ was there too YZ then put Bai Taiguan and wanted to kill him cause he felt angry and jealous to Bai Taiguan. LSN came to meet YZ to beg him to release BTG, whom actually already released by Zheng Jing and his maids. LSN and YZ then spent a night together. And YZ promised to marry her and brought her to the palace. Actually this scene is done so beautifully. Both of them looked like they're really in love. Michelle Yim looked very beautiful and cute here. And I just realized that Alex Man actually is younger than Michelle Yim but he looked much more mature than LSN here. They both really did a great job. YZ tried to find a way to marry and bring LSN into the palace. He asked helped from Empress Dowager who promised to help him to talk to the royal big families for YZ to be able to marry a Han girl.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2014 12:59:28 GMT
Lv Siniang depicted as a strong woman and an open minded in this series. His uncle scolded her as she's not doing the teaching of Confucius and being a good girl. She said that she's not married yet, so there's no reason why she had to follow those rules. His uncle then interrogated her for came home late the night before. She admitted that she met YZ. Her uncle got really angry and said it's indecent for man and woman to be alone in a room at night. And she answered : "Men can drink wine at the prostitution house, and why can woman are not allowed to have a decent conversation with a man?" His uncle said : "Because I suspect that you and him didn't do decent conversation, but also did some other thing." She answered : "Then what? If two peoples are in love, then that's not something indecent!" Her uncle shocked. LSN admitted that she slept with YZ. Her uncle was so angry and almost beat her to death. Their maids stopped him, so he only grounded her and persuaded her to forget YZ. Her uncle then arranged a trick to wed LSN to Bai Taiguan. Poor LSN
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Post by galvatron prime on Oct 3, 2014 4:37:52 GMT
AdminIn TVB 1997 War and Remembrance (乾 隆 大 帝),I heard someone said in other forum TVB want to invited Alex Man and Michelle Yim to start as Yung Ching and Lui Shei Leung again with reunited with David Chiang but both of them have reject the request. The Role Lui Shei Leung went to Michelle Yim sister,Suet Lei while Law lok Lam get the Yung Ching role. Law Lok Lam and Ngai Chau Wah also reunited with David Chiang in that drama. That drama also Louis Koo last drama as white guy before he get tanned .
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2014 5:18:10 GMT
AdminIn TVB 1997 War and Remembrance (乾 隆 大 帝),I heard someone said in other forum TVB want to invited Alex Man and Michelle Yim to start as Yung Ching and Lui Shei Leung again with reunited with David Chiang but both of them have reject the request. The Role Lui Shei Leung went to Michelle Yim sister,Suet Lei while Law lok Lam get the Yung Ching role. Law Lok Lam and Ngai Chau Wah also reunited with David Chiang in that drama. That drama also Louis Koo last drama as white guy before he get tanned . It's good to know that they rejected the roles. After 17 years the reunited in the same story is ridiculous
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2014 5:40:27 GMT
Lv LiuLiang, LSN's uncle drugged LSN and put her on the wedding chamber while he ordered one maid to dressed up in wedding gown to do the wedding ceremony. LSN woke up from the drug only to find her in the wedding chamber with Bai TaiGuan. She was devastated but then accepted her fate and tried to be a good wife although she didn't like Bai TaiGuan at all. YZ came late to the wedding, and he was so angry and devastated. Zheng Jing who was heartbroken because of LSN"s marriage, was an openminded guy. He came to wedding party, and helped Lv LiuLiang to accept a very strong poisonous wine from YZ's subordinate who came to the wedding. Zheng Jing then got serious wound. Because of this, he married his maids and his master's daughter. YZ was so devastated that he often went to a prostitution house, and had one of the woman there to do drama and acted as if she was LSN, and asked one of his eunuch to act as Bai Taiguan. And he would asked that 'LSN' to slap and hit 'Bai TaiGuan' LOL. It's a funny scene when the eunuch said to YZ that his teeth sore because of that constant beating LOL. Then a monk who work for YZ, named Mo Ming, an evil monk, plotted a plan so that YZ could meet LSN in a temple, and let Bai TaiGuan saw it. Broken Bai TaiGuan then hypnotized by Mo Ming until he committed suicide by hanging himself. I love the way they depicted YZ here. He's really in love with LSN, but also a real psycho guy!
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2014 7:51:29 GMT
Stupid and stubborn Lv LiuLiang wanted to kill YZ. He forced LSN to write a letter to invite YZ to came to their house where he planned to killed him. LSN then released Wu Ming who was arrested at Lv's house to warn YZ so YZ could escape this plot. YZ assigned someone whose face looked like him to come to Lv house, and Lv LiuLiang killed him, thought that the man was the real YZ. General Nian told Lv LiuLiang that he broke the law tried to kill the emperor, but he guaranteed that if Lv wanted to surrender, then YZ would forgive him and wouldn't kill him. Especially because YZ wouldn't let down LSN and he himself would beg YZ to forgive him. Lv insisted that he wouldn't want to surrender. Instead he made LSN to swear that she wouldn't meet YZ again. Lv then asked Zheng Jing to take away LSN as far away as possible. That night at the appointed time Lv didn't surrender, General Nian then had to use force to catch him and the whole family. Meanwhile another troops were sent to catch LSN. LSN and Zheng Jing cornered on a sea cliff. They both jumped. YZ worried of LSN, then went to the place to search for her. He saw LSN's robe, and he was glad to see that there's no remain of her, meant that she might still alive. Still he was so devastated and almost like crazy he jumped to sea and called out her name. It's a sad scene. Showing how really loved LSN. He might be cruel, but he really loved LSN and treated her nicely. It's just Lv LiuLiang who was so stubborn and wouldn't let them to be together. Zheng Jing knew that LSN released Wu Ming the monk and that the monk who notified YZ that all the incident happened. But he didn't blame LSN for it. Zheng Jing character is so adorable here. He loved LSN secretly, but he's a gentleman and he knew that LSN only loved YZ. When LSN asked him why he didn't stop her when she was about to release Wu Ming, and she asked if he actually agreed with her action. He said he didn't agree. but if he was in her shoe, he would do the same thing. He really loved LSN, but he knew that the best way to love her was to make her happy. When Lv LiuLiang forced LSN to kill YZ and to swear that she wouldn't meet YZ again, it was Zheng Jing who asked Lv not to force LSN to do things that upset her. But that old Lv was too stubborn and told him to back off and that has nothing to do with Zheng Jing, that's Lv's family affair. Grrrrrrr......
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2014 9:07:36 GMT
YZ ordered his troops to find LSN and Zheng Jing. LSN and ZJ were cornered and hid on an abandoned temple. LSN then told ZJ, what to do next, cause they couldn't find any solution to escape after all the things happened. ZJ said, there's two solution, give up. Then LSN could be with YZ and happily together, but then how's she going to face her uncle (still unknown if he's alive or death). The second solution is to fake LSN's death and made YZ forget him. LSN chose the second option. ZJ then arranged her fake death. YZ was notified by his subordinate that they found LSN's grave. YZ came to the site and didn't want to believe that she's dead. His soldiers dug the grave in rainy day...(yeah...they don't wait until the rain stop ) They found out a half decomposed female corpse. YZ recognized LSN's clothes and sword. He was so sad and devastated that he tried to hug that decomposed body. His bodyguards had to work hard to stop and pulled him away. Broken YZ then met Old Lv at the prison. He told Lv that LSN died. Lv laughed and said that he would prefer to see LSN died rather than to be with him. YZ was so angry. He said that he and LSN loved each other, and it was Lv who created all this havoc to separate them. Lv kept on cursed YZ and YZ became really angry and he pushed Lv's head on the wall in his anger until Lv died. Still anger and upset with LSN death, YZ put all the blame to Lv LiuLiang. He then made a decree and executed all the whole 9 categories of Lv's families. (this part is a historical fact ) Hmm, although YZ was depicted as a cunning emperor, it's hard for me to hate YZ. He was so nice and sincere to LSN. Hmm....dilemma. Just like when people ask : do you prefer a bad guy who treats you so nicely, or a good guy who treat you so-so?? Tough question for girls to answer
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2014 15:53:08 GMT
Zheng Jing and LSN then spread the book written by Lv LiuLiang, a book about how evil Yong Zheng was, and about how to revive Ming Dynasty. Because of this, their whereabout was traced by Wu Ming. He reported it to YZ.
YZ was happy to find out that LSN wasn't died. He managed to meet LSN, but then he was almost killed by ZJ and LSN. LSN didn't have the heart to kill him, YZ used this time to point his gun at LSN's head. ZJ didn't buy his intimidation. He told YZ that he only had one bullet, if he killed LSN, the minute after he would kill him. None of them made any movement.
At the same time Niang GengYao and the peoples in the palace sent troops to save YZ. Including the Empress Dowager asked 14th Prince to persuade ZJ not to kill YZ. 14th Prince then persuade ZJ not to kill YZ. ZJ agreed with conditions that YZ would make an edict that clear out Lv family reputation, and also that he would let them go. YZ agreed.
Because of this incident, YZ hated the 8th and 9th Princes, cause they sent the gun troops to save YZ. YZ prejudiced that they deliberately do this to kill YZ. And he also hated 14th Prince more cause the Empress Dowager praised his kind heart and effort to save YZ and persuade Zheng Jing.
A few months later there's rebellion in Xinjiang. YZ then deliberately wanted to send 14th Prince to the front line under the command of Nian Gengyao to go to war. Actually he did so that 14th Prince would die in battlefield.
Upset with this, 14th Prince went to Empress Dowager and asked her for justice. Empress Dowager then met YZ and asked YZ not to send 14th Prince to the frontline. YZ and his mother had some arguments. Empress Dowager was shocked and upset hearing YZ's confession that he wouldn't want to return his throne to 14th Prince, that he wanted him to die, etc. Empress Dowager then committed suicide by bumping her head on the wall.
YZ was shocked to his mother's death. But rather than being upset, he killed the witnesses and made a trap for 14th Prince, 8th and 9th Prince and accused them of killing Empress Dowager. Actually he was just using 8th and 9th Princes as another witness to accuse 14th Prince.
14th Prince came to Nian Gengyao and asked his help to become his witness. Unexpectedly, Nian Gengyao was willing to help 14th Prince. Then the accusation went to 8th and 9th Prince. Although he's upset cause his main target was 14th Prince, but he was happy too cause he could get rid of the two princes that he hated.
He sent 8th and 9th Princes to prison, and treated them inhumanely. (this is part of the real history) --- , it is a fact that he did persecute till the point of death, siblings and officials who challenged his authority. The most notorious examples would be the eighth and ninth son of Emperor KangXi, both his younger half-brothers. YunYi the eighth prince was first promoted when Emperor YongZheng ascended the throne, but was accused of various misdoings soon after. In the fourth year of Emperor YongZheng's reign (1726), he was excommunicated and imprisoned. He was even given the name A1 Qi2 Na4 阿其那 which means "pig". About half a year later, YunYi aka AQiNa died in captivity. YunTang, the ninth prince suffered similar consequences. He was excommunicated the same year as YunYi and was given the name Sai4Si1Hei1 赛思黑 which means "dog". Similarly, he was held captive. He suffered ill treatment from an official who tried to curry flavour Empror YongZheng and died about three months after he was imprisoned.
It's a good acting of Alex Man. he really looked like a psycho when he was dealing with his mother's death and with the two princes. No more sympathy for him after he pointed a gun at LSN :S LSN was so stupid that she didn't just kill that bastard!!
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Post by Admin on Oct 4, 2014 7:42:36 GMT
Yong Zheng assigned Wu Ming to hunt down Zheng Jing and bring back LSN to him. Wu Ming killed ZJ's wife, Pearl. Because of this, his other maid then left him. ZJ got drunk and he told LSN his feeling. ZJ then left the house and go back to the capital to kill Wu Ming.
YZ became more and more hallucinated and cruel. One day he asked Hong Li to send a gift to 14thPrince. When he opened it, it's the Emperor's seal. Just right after 14th Prince opened it, Longkodo came and accused him of stealing the Imperial Seal. YZ then wanted to executed 14th Prince. Hongli, who were described here as a smart, righteous teenager then told in front of the officers that it was he who stole the imperial seal, and he just wanted to play around. YZ was not happy, but then he forgave both Hong Li and 14th Prince.
Hongli then went outside the palace as he was scolded by the queen. He went outside and bumped into Chen Jialuo. Longkodo knew that Chen JiaLuo was Li JinGui's son, and Li JinGui was Hongli's biological mother. He reported to YZ and YZ ordered him to kill CJL. CJL managed to escape from the prison with the help of HongLi. He ran into street and later helped by Nian GengYao. Nian Gengyao then gave CJL and his mother some money to get away from the capital.
YZ became more and more resent Nian GengYao. He then tried to disband his troops. Knowing that his troops were so loyal to Nian Gengyao, he then used some tricks to get rid of Nian. He later demoted and sent Nian GengYao to be an ordinary soldier in Hangzhou. Not to mention that he ordered some people to loot and harm him and his wife during their trip to Hangzhou. Lucky that Nian GengYao was helped by Han Chong who respected Nian Gengyao and still secretly love his wife. YZ just tried to do many things to make Nian's life miserable.
Nian GengYao character here is quite complicated. Sometimes he's righteous and do justice, sometimes he's arrogant and just do things for the sake of power. the actor, Yeung Chak Leum did a good job.
Watching this series, I didn't feel like watching an old series. The fighting scene is pretty good and not to slow. The actings are superb!
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