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Post by galvatron prime on Oct 30, 2014 6:41:50 GMT
Hello,i have a question ,i have notice that ATV don't not make a Wuxia serial based on Jinyong novel ,only the less popular 越女劍 Sword of the Yue Maiden,i wonder why ? The likes of LOCH,ROCH,DGSD already make 2 times around 1980an and 1990an while ATV din't even dare to make one .
And most popular Gulong novel hero like Chor Lau Heung ,Luk Siu Fung,Siew Sap Yat Long(Treasure Raider) are made by TVB and ATV only make Gulong wuxia serial based on Gulong less popular novel ,am i right on this?
Why TVB allow ATV to make Jinyong Sword of the Yue Maiden while itself don't dare to made on it.
I wonder what if ATV make Jinyong wuxia serial in 1980an and 1990an like ROCH,ROCH etc, do you can they done better than TVB?
Do you think TVB is bully ATV ?
Thanks.
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Post by siuyiu on Oct 30, 2014 19:36:57 GMT
tvb and atv were always in competition, and i think for that reason, they couldn't both adapt the same novels--remember how atv lost the fight to make CLX and had to change all the characters names, requiring a reshooting of the whole series (It Takes a Thief)? i think tvb won the bidding wars to adapt the famous JY/GL novels and therefore atv had to settle for adapting novels that tvb didn't. which is why they have a mixture of GL, LYS, HY, WRA adaptations. i don't know that tvb bullied atv, but it certainly had more loyal viewers, and it certainly had more clout in terms of winning the rights to adapt popular wuxia novels. i know in the 1980s, especially, they were constantly battling for viewers, so if one studio made a big production with big stars, then the other would try to beat that with their own productions. for example, atv made Empress Wu, and tvb counteracted with bo lin tang (i don't know the english title--it's the folktale about a mortal who becomes a deity, starring liza wang and simon yam); tvb lost that battle of the ratings. atv's Building of the Great Wall also had a tvb competitor; i think it was the 2nd adaptation of the Yang Warriors, starring andy lau, michael miu, and the rest. atv got a bit of a break in the 1990s, when a whole bunch of tvb actors moved over to them after a few of them got into some dispute with the-powers-that-be. but that turn of luck ended when the actors went back to tvb. and with atv not really producing tv series anymore nowadays, tvb has a monopoly. and no matter how shitty their productions are, viewers don't really have much of a choice. of course, many have now turned to mainland productions and k-drama. and as far as i'm aware, taiwan productions are still not that popular. that's what i know. i will add that tvb's loyal viewers are rabidly loyal--tvb can do no wrong in their eyes; and even if sometimes they complain about certain things they don't like about certain productions, only they have a right to do so. if you're not a loyal tvb fan, and you dare complain... and worse, if you're an atv fan, you're scum of the earth. (and just to clarify: i've watched productions from both tvb and atv, and i like some productions and found fault in others from both. i have the advantage of never having lived in HK for an extended period of time, so i don't have blind loyalties.
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Post by reinafu on Oct 30, 2014 21:34:03 GMT
I owe series from both companies and I enjoy ATV as well as TVB but it's a fact that ATV productions are more difficult to find than the TVB ones...
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Post by siuyiu on Oct 30, 2014 21:50:04 GMT
reinafu yes, due to mostly monetary reasons, atv has not released most of their productions on dvd. sadly.
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Post by Admin on Nov 1, 2014 14:19:23 GMT
Ah...so that's the whole story. Thanks for the enlightment Siuyiu!
I think that ATV ancient series are not bad at all, IMHO.
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Post by siuyiu on Nov 1, 2014 15:05:34 GMT
Ah...so that's the whole story. Thanks for the enlightment Siuyiu! I think that ATV ancient series are not bad at all, IMHO. well, that's the overall, anyway. a lot more politics--and a lot more i wouldn't know, not having lived there! agree that the ancient series are overall better from ATV vs TVB (less "poetic license" with historical events, for the most part). although ATV tended to screw up endings for their wuxia adaptations, one of the most infamous being PZXYL. TVB just generally did adaptations that were "loosely based on" the novels.
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Post by caiyi on Nov 3, 2014 3:28:13 GMT
I think it's due to copyright. Maybe TVB owned the copyright of all popular novels by Jin Yong and Gu Long in the 70s, 80s and 90s. So, ATV couldn't adapt those novels.
I think it's good this way. ATV has to look for other authors' novel to adapted and we get the Wo Longsheng, Liang Yusheng novels adaptation from ATV. We even get a classic original wuxia series 'Reincarnation' from ATV.
If both got the same copyrights, we won't have so many different adaptations. HK will just have many different version of JY adaptations.
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Post by Admin on Nov 4, 2014 4:38:19 GMT
I think it's due to copyright. Maybe TVB owned the copyright of all popular novels by Jin Yong and Gu Long in the 70s, 80s and 90s. So, ATV couldn't adapt those novels. I think it's good this way. ATV has to look for other authors' novel to adapted and we get the Wo Longsheng, Liang Yusheng novels adaptation from ATV. We even get a classic original wuxia series 'Reincarnation' from ATV. If both got the same copyrights, we won't have so many different adaptations. HK will just have many different version of JY adaptations. Totally agree with Caiyi. Somehow I think that both ATV and TVB have their own strength. Can't compare. Although I have to admit that TVB had more popular stars, but ATV had good scripts. So I guess they both were very competitive in those times.
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