Inconsistencies in TV Adaptations of JY
Jul 13, 2014 2:47:13 GMT
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Post by siuyiu on Jul 13, 2014 2:47:13 GMT
i had better luck salvaging these, though still incomplete. again, going to list by series and not by individual member:
LOCH83 (TVB)
1. LOCH 83 is missing the scene of Qu Lingfeng encountered with Yang TieXin and Guo XiaoTian
2. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when Guo Jing tamed the red blood horse in Mongolia
3. LOCH 83 83 didn't portray the fight between 7 freaks of Jiang Nan vs Qiu Chuji correctly, they were supposed to compete using a big wine vat instead of a small kettle
4. Mei Chaofeng appeared to early in LOCH, she's supposed to appear just before the fight with Chen Xuanfeng and 7 Freaks which caused double fatalities and Mei Chaofeng's eyes got blinded
5. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when the Guo Jing saw Ouyang Ke's women lackeys dressed in white when he first entered the Central Plains
6. LOCH 83 extended the romantic scene between Guo Jing and Hua Zheng too much
7. In LOCH 83 Guo Jing first met Huang Rong when she was resting on the tree, in the novel, he first met her as a food thief in the restaurant
8. In the novel Guo Jing gave Huang Rong his red blood horse, but LOCH 83 eliminated his horse completely (probably due to the budget constraint)
9. Yang Kang did not meet Mu NianCi at the market for the first time like in LOCH 83, he met her during the marriage competition.
10. Yang TieXin is supposed to see his wife, Bao XiRuo, again during the marriage competition not way before like in LOCH 83
11. Huang Rong did not show herself as a girl because she was jealous of Mu NianCi like in LOCH 83.
12. Huang Rong played too much pranks with Guo Jing, including trapping him and tieing him up with ropes on the trees, this scene did not happen in the novel.
13. Huang Rong did not work together with 4 Evils of the Yellow River to capture Guo Jing because he left her, this scene is a made up scene.
14. Huang Rong should still be a beggar running around when the Mu NianCi and Yang TieXin had the marriage competition, this should be followed by Wang Chuyi's first apperance in which Yang TieXin saw Bao Xirou for the first time again. This whole scene lost its impact because TVB made up #9 and #10
15. The follow up scene when Guo Jing and Wang Chuyi raced using their qinggong is missing
16. The scene where Wang Chuyi had to fight his way out when he took Guo Jing to Wangyan Honglie's residence to fulfil Yang Kang's invitation was missing its impact because TVB changed the fight, it was shown more like an escape, instead of feat competition which led to the escape
17. Wang Chuyi was injured during the escape #16, this is when Huang Rong was supposed to show herself as a girl for the first time, but missing the impact because she already revealed herself too early
18. When Huang Rong first showed up as a girl in #11, she was supposed to sing and Guo Jing jumped onto the boat with her while he brought her some buns.
19. Yang Kang did not meet Yang TieXin earlier after the marriage competition and TVB made up the scene when Yang TieXin asked Yang Kang his name.
20. Yang Kang did not imprison Yang TieXin and Mu NianCi in the novel.
21. Bao XiRou did not reveal Yang Kang's background to him, Yang Kang knew it later when Yang TieXin found her inside the hut in the palace
22. Qiu Chuji did not meet Yang TieXin until his suicide later
23. TVB made up the earlier mocking between Huang Rong and Qiu Chiu Ji prior to Yang TieXin's death
24. Qiu Chuji did not capture Yang Kang and force him to apologize to his father, this is all a made up scene
25. Wangyan Honglie never let Bao Xirou go, in the novel when he found out he immediately chased her and Yang TieXin which led to their death, so this whole drama prior to their death was a made up scene by TVB
26. Yang Kang did not fake a letter written by Bao Xirou to his father, another made up scene
27. Guo Jing was never forced to be QuanZhen disciple by Qiu Chuji
28. LOCH 83 skipped the entire important scene when Huang Rong showed off her wits during Wangyan Honglie's meeting, in which he fought using wits to distract and buy time from them while Guo Jing looked for medicine for Wang Chuyi
29. Huang Rong never used Mei Chaofeng to threaten the 7 Freaks
30. Ouyang Ke appeared to early, when he got caught talking to Yang Kang by Qiu Chuji
31. Bao XiRou never attempted to become a nun, another TVB made up story
32. Yang TieXin and Yang Kang didn't find Bao Xirou in the nunnery, in the novel, they were running away from Wangyan Honglie's soldiers and end up in an abandon temple
33. Yang Kang never attempted to be a common Han person, he did not go to the Ox Village to investigate himself.
34. To Lui and Hua Zheng appeared too early, this is all made up scenes by TVB, To Lui and Hua Zheng never met Guo Jing until the later Ox Village scene when Guo Jing was recovering from the knife stab.
35. Huang Rong did not steal Hong QiGong's clothes
36. The Yu Fei manual transported by the Beggar Union members was a made up plot by TVB
37. Huang Rong did not attempt to torture Hong QiGong on the beach
38. Hong QiGong did not get poisoned by Hua Zheng, this is a made up story by TVB
39. Huang Rong and To Lui did not get captured by Yang Kang and his lackeys
40. Hong QiGong did not teach Guo Jing the final 3 stances of 18 Dragon Subduing palms when they were trapped in the room, he taught Guo Jing during the fight with Ouyang Ke which TVB completely skipped.
41. The entire Lu Guanying and his love affair subplot was made up, Guo Jing and Huang Rong met him in the Lu Manor just before Qiu QianRen appeared and a fight with Mei Chaofeng
42. Sun BuEr's early apperance is made up to accomodate TVB made up subplot in #41
43. Huang YaoShi appeared to early, he never fought with Hong QiGong in the novel
44. Duan TianDe reappeared too early, Qiu Chuji never discovered him in the market, this is a made up scene
45. Yang Kang didn't get poisoned, Mu Nianci didn't save her life to cure him, this is a made up story by TVB
46. Hua Zheng didn't get hit by Yang Kang, therefore Guo Jing didn't beg Huang Rong to save his life, (since Hua Zheng is not supposed to appear at all, this is a made up story by TVB)
47. The scene at Lu Manor is missing the discovery of fake Qiu QianRen's tricks by Huang Rong and Freak #2
48. The big fight between Guo Jing vs Mei Chaofeng where Huang Yaoshi is supposed to appear for the first time was missing.
49. Lu Chengfeng discovered Huang Rong's identity too early
50. Lu Guanying didn't get married until later during the Ox Village Scene
51. Guo Jing didn't become a drunken man because Huang Rong left her
52. Huang Rong didn't follow her father back to the peach blossom island and later went back to look for Guo Jing, all made up by TVB
53. The trees in peach blossom island are supposed to be confusing in the way they are planted but it doesn't mean the trees can fly and jump and tie up Guo Jing on the ground like a Alice in the Wonderland
54. Huang YaoShi's scene with his dead wife is all made up, in the novel she is already dead a long time ago
55. The turtle scene in the cave when Guo Jing first met Zhou Botong is missing
56. Huang Yaoshi did not fight Zhou Botong until later after the marriage competition.
57. When Ouyang Feng first arrived in the island, he later sparred with North Beggar, this scene was missing
58. Zhou Botong did not play prank with Ouyang Ke with the upside down frog style technique
59. Zhou Botong's teaching Guo Jing the 72 kunming fists, L-R techniques and 9 Ying were too short and never explained well
60. The first round of the marriage competition was supposed to be on the tree not poles, Guo Jing was supposed to win in the novel
61. The second round was supposed to be in music and Ouyang Ke is the winner in the novel
62. The third round was supposed to be in literature but Guo Jing was supposed to be away when Ouyang Ke recited it first
63. After the competition, Zhou Botong is supposed to appear and fought Huang Yaoshi and surprised him with his new techniques
64. Ouyang Feng did not plot to return to kidnap Guo Jing, this is a made up plot
65. The entire scene with Huang Yaoshi trying to ressurect his wife is made up
66. Huang Yaoshi didn't reveal the truth about his wife to Huang Rong after they left with the sinking boat
67. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when Guo Jing and North Beggar climbed up the pole to pee on Ouyang Feng
68. The scene where Guo Jing used L-R technique in the boat to confuse Ouyang Feng was missing
69. The big fight between Ouyang Feng and Hong QiGong where Ouyang Feng used his snake to poison Hong QiGong was missing in LOCH 83
70. The scene where Huang Rong found about the big rock and set up the trap for Ouyang Ke was missing
71. The scene where Ouyang Ke was submerged underwater until he was rescued was missing
72. The scene where North Beggar taught Huang Rong the dog beating stick in the cave was missing, instead TVB made Hong QiGong taught Huang Rong later after they returned to the Mainland
73. The part where Guo Jing told Hong Qigong about 9 Yin to heal him was missing
74. The part where Huang Rong and Guo Jing practiced 9 Yin in the island was skipped by TVB
75. The part where Ouyang Feng tried to escaped with the raft but punctured by Huang Rong was skipped by TVB
76. It wasn't Zhou Botong who told Huang Yaoshi that Huang Rong had died but it was the Jin lackeys (or was in Yang Kang) when Huang Yaoshi landed on their boat
77. The part where Zhou Botong was riding the shark was missing
78. The scene where Ouyang Feng keep on practicing the false 9 Yin was made up
79. Ouyang Ke's legs never healed in the novel
80. The effort to find the 1,000 old ginseng to heal Hong Qigong was made up
81. Zhou Botong didn't redirect the cannon to save Huang Rong, Guo Jing and Hong QiGong after they returned to the Mainland, this is all made up.
82. Mu NianCi didn't show up until later in the novel, so she didn't meet Mei Chaofeng and saved her, another made up subplot
83. Yang Kang didn't beg Wangyan Honglie to let her marry Mu NianCi
84. Mei Chaofeng didn't walk into the palace to force Yang Kang to meet Mu Nianci, so she never fought with Ouyang Feng until later, made up scene again
85. Yang Kang did not beg Mu NianCi to marry her and they never got married in the novel
86. Mei Chaofeng didn't meet Huang Yaoshi to find the 7 Freaks
87. Guo Jing and Huang Rong did not go to the Iron palm section to ask for info on North Beggar's whereabout, this whole episode with the wooden men is all made
up by TVB
88. Zhou Botong didn't save Guo Jing behind the waterfall in the Song palace
89. Sha Gu only knew three peach blossom island moves, she wasn't trying to scare off Zhou Botong, Huang Rong and the rest, an exaggerated scene by TVB
90. Zhou Botong didn't help Guo Jing and Huang Rong inside the hidden room
91. The watermelon scene was missing inside the hidden room
92. Huang Rong and Guo Jing never cease to hold hand inside the room
93. Obviously since Lu Guanying's marriage scene was done too early, this whole scene was missing
94. Ouyang Ke was reason why Huang Rong lost his dog beating stick not because she dropped it when she was helping the injured Guo Jing
95. Guo Jing and Huang Rong was supposed to see the fight between Huang Yaoshi and 7 Quanzhen masters, this is the time when Guo Jing understood the book of changes, the big dipper and the relationship to 9 Yin.
96. This is the scene when Guo Jing busted out from the room with Huang Rong and found out that Hua Zheng and To Lui were in trouble and met them again for the first time, but TVB already changed the plot, so the impact was lost when they saved To Lui and Hua Zheng, this is when Huang Rong first met Hua Zheng and Huang Yaoshi got furious.
97. Yang Kang was supposed to meet the 7 Quanzhen master with Mu NianCi while carrying the dog beating stick on the way to the beggar union meeting not at the Ox Village house
98. Guo Jing and Huang Rong did not go to the beggar union meeting with Zhou Botong and Hong Qigong
99. Yang Kang did not tell Mu NianCi he was Hong Qigong's disciple, a made up subplot.
100. The discovery of the painting which led to later finding of Yue Fei's war manual inside the hidden room was missing.
others:
- yang kang never married mu nianci
- Guo jing never fought Yang Kang on the beach, the duel never happened.
- the romantic scenes between Yang kang and Mu Nianci prior to the death of Yang Kang's parents, were made up by TVBs because the show was popular
- Qiu Qianren and Yang Kang never attacked Quanzhen
- Guo Jing didn't know Yi Yang finger, he onlyknew how to mimick the technique to scare off Ouyang Feng
- The biggest inconsistency is TVB's use of the word Condor [jiù is the pinyin for vultures, which are foul smelling carrion eaters] instead of the correct word Eagle [diao is the pinyin used in the official names for the various eagle species in China]. Would you link the heroes of two famous novels with a carrion eater?
(credit: temujin, wuliner, wizard, me)
LOCH83 (TVB)
1. LOCH 83 is missing the scene of Qu Lingfeng encountered with Yang TieXin and Guo XiaoTian
2. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when Guo Jing tamed the red blood horse in Mongolia
3. LOCH 83 83 didn't portray the fight between 7 freaks of Jiang Nan vs Qiu Chuji correctly, they were supposed to compete using a big wine vat instead of a small kettle
4. Mei Chaofeng appeared to early in LOCH, she's supposed to appear just before the fight with Chen Xuanfeng and 7 Freaks which caused double fatalities and Mei Chaofeng's eyes got blinded
5. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when the Guo Jing saw Ouyang Ke's women lackeys dressed in white when he first entered the Central Plains
6. LOCH 83 extended the romantic scene between Guo Jing and Hua Zheng too much
7. In LOCH 83 Guo Jing first met Huang Rong when she was resting on the tree, in the novel, he first met her as a food thief in the restaurant
8. In the novel Guo Jing gave Huang Rong his red blood horse, but LOCH 83 eliminated his horse completely (probably due to the budget constraint)
9. Yang Kang did not meet Mu NianCi at the market for the first time like in LOCH 83, he met her during the marriage competition.
10. Yang TieXin is supposed to see his wife, Bao XiRuo, again during the marriage competition not way before like in LOCH 83
11. Huang Rong did not show herself as a girl because she was jealous of Mu NianCi like in LOCH 83.
12. Huang Rong played too much pranks with Guo Jing, including trapping him and tieing him up with ropes on the trees, this scene did not happen in the novel.
13. Huang Rong did not work together with 4 Evils of the Yellow River to capture Guo Jing because he left her, this scene is a made up scene.
14. Huang Rong should still be a beggar running around when the Mu NianCi and Yang TieXin had the marriage competition, this should be followed by Wang Chuyi's first apperance in which Yang TieXin saw Bao Xirou for the first time again. This whole scene lost its impact because TVB made up #9 and #10
15. The follow up scene when Guo Jing and Wang Chuyi raced using their qinggong is missing
16. The scene where Wang Chuyi had to fight his way out when he took Guo Jing to Wangyan Honglie's residence to fulfil Yang Kang's invitation was missing its impact because TVB changed the fight, it was shown more like an escape, instead of feat competition which led to the escape
17. Wang Chuyi was injured during the escape #16, this is when Huang Rong was supposed to show herself as a girl for the first time, but missing the impact because she already revealed herself too early
18. When Huang Rong first showed up as a girl in #11, she was supposed to sing and Guo Jing jumped onto the boat with her while he brought her some buns.
19. Yang Kang did not meet Yang TieXin earlier after the marriage competition and TVB made up the scene when Yang TieXin asked Yang Kang his name.
20. Yang Kang did not imprison Yang TieXin and Mu NianCi in the novel.
21. Bao XiRou did not reveal Yang Kang's background to him, Yang Kang knew it later when Yang TieXin found her inside the hut in the palace
22. Qiu Chuji did not meet Yang TieXin until his suicide later
23. TVB made up the earlier mocking between Huang Rong and Qiu Chiu Ji prior to Yang TieXin's death
24. Qiu Chuji did not capture Yang Kang and force him to apologize to his father, this is all a made up scene
25. Wangyan Honglie never let Bao Xirou go, in the novel when he found out he immediately chased her and Yang TieXin which led to their death, so this whole drama prior to their death was a made up scene by TVB
26. Yang Kang did not fake a letter written by Bao Xirou to his father, another made up scene
27. Guo Jing was never forced to be QuanZhen disciple by Qiu Chuji
28. LOCH 83 skipped the entire important scene when Huang Rong showed off her wits during Wangyan Honglie's meeting, in which he fought using wits to distract and buy time from them while Guo Jing looked for medicine for Wang Chuyi
29. Huang Rong never used Mei Chaofeng to threaten the 7 Freaks
30. Ouyang Ke appeared to early, when he got caught talking to Yang Kang by Qiu Chuji
31. Bao XiRou never attempted to become a nun, another TVB made up story
32. Yang TieXin and Yang Kang didn't find Bao Xirou in the nunnery, in the novel, they were running away from Wangyan Honglie's soldiers and end up in an abandon temple
33. Yang Kang never attempted to be a common Han person, he did not go to the Ox Village to investigate himself.
34. To Lui and Hua Zheng appeared too early, this is all made up scenes by TVB, To Lui and Hua Zheng never met Guo Jing until the later Ox Village scene when Guo Jing was recovering from the knife stab.
35. Huang Rong did not steal Hong QiGong's clothes
36. The Yu Fei manual transported by the Beggar Union members was a made up plot by TVB
37. Huang Rong did not attempt to torture Hong QiGong on the beach
38. Hong QiGong did not get poisoned by Hua Zheng, this is a made up story by TVB
39. Huang Rong and To Lui did not get captured by Yang Kang and his lackeys
40. Hong QiGong did not teach Guo Jing the final 3 stances of 18 Dragon Subduing palms when they were trapped in the room, he taught Guo Jing during the fight with Ouyang Ke which TVB completely skipped.
41. The entire Lu Guanying and his love affair subplot was made up, Guo Jing and Huang Rong met him in the Lu Manor just before Qiu QianRen appeared and a fight with Mei Chaofeng
42. Sun BuEr's early apperance is made up to accomodate TVB made up subplot in #41
43. Huang YaoShi appeared to early, he never fought with Hong QiGong in the novel
44. Duan TianDe reappeared too early, Qiu Chuji never discovered him in the market, this is a made up scene
45. Yang Kang didn't get poisoned, Mu Nianci didn't save her life to cure him, this is a made up story by TVB
46. Hua Zheng didn't get hit by Yang Kang, therefore Guo Jing didn't beg Huang Rong to save his life, (since Hua Zheng is not supposed to appear at all, this is a made up story by TVB)
47. The scene at Lu Manor is missing the discovery of fake Qiu QianRen's tricks by Huang Rong and Freak #2
48. The big fight between Guo Jing vs Mei Chaofeng where Huang Yaoshi is supposed to appear for the first time was missing.
49. Lu Chengfeng discovered Huang Rong's identity too early
50. Lu Guanying didn't get married until later during the Ox Village Scene
51. Guo Jing didn't become a drunken man because Huang Rong left her
52. Huang Rong didn't follow her father back to the peach blossom island and later went back to look for Guo Jing, all made up by TVB
53. The trees in peach blossom island are supposed to be confusing in the way they are planted but it doesn't mean the trees can fly and jump and tie up Guo Jing on the ground like a Alice in the Wonderland
54. Huang YaoShi's scene with his dead wife is all made up, in the novel she is already dead a long time ago
55. The turtle scene in the cave when Guo Jing first met Zhou Botong is missing
56. Huang Yaoshi did not fight Zhou Botong until later after the marriage competition.
57. When Ouyang Feng first arrived in the island, he later sparred with North Beggar, this scene was missing
58. Zhou Botong did not play prank with Ouyang Ke with the upside down frog style technique
59. Zhou Botong's teaching Guo Jing the 72 kunming fists, L-R techniques and 9 Ying were too short and never explained well
60. The first round of the marriage competition was supposed to be on the tree not poles, Guo Jing was supposed to win in the novel
61. The second round was supposed to be in music and Ouyang Ke is the winner in the novel
62. The third round was supposed to be in literature but Guo Jing was supposed to be away when Ouyang Ke recited it first
63. After the competition, Zhou Botong is supposed to appear and fought Huang Yaoshi and surprised him with his new techniques
64. Ouyang Feng did not plot to return to kidnap Guo Jing, this is a made up plot
65. The entire scene with Huang Yaoshi trying to ressurect his wife is made up
66. Huang Yaoshi didn't reveal the truth about his wife to Huang Rong after they left with the sinking boat
67. LOCH 83 is missing the scene when Guo Jing and North Beggar climbed up the pole to pee on Ouyang Feng
68. The scene where Guo Jing used L-R technique in the boat to confuse Ouyang Feng was missing
69. The big fight between Ouyang Feng and Hong QiGong where Ouyang Feng used his snake to poison Hong QiGong was missing in LOCH 83
70. The scene where Huang Rong found about the big rock and set up the trap for Ouyang Ke was missing
71. The scene where Ouyang Ke was submerged underwater until he was rescued was missing
72. The scene where North Beggar taught Huang Rong the dog beating stick in the cave was missing, instead TVB made Hong QiGong taught Huang Rong later after they returned to the Mainland
73. The part where Guo Jing told Hong Qigong about 9 Yin to heal him was missing
74. The part where Huang Rong and Guo Jing practiced 9 Yin in the island was skipped by TVB
75. The part where Ouyang Feng tried to escaped with the raft but punctured by Huang Rong was skipped by TVB
76. It wasn't Zhou Botong who told Huang Yaoshi that Huang Rong had died but it was the Jin lackeys (or was in Yang Kang) when Huang Yaoshi landed on their boat
77. The part where Zhou Botong was riding the shark was missing
78. The scene where Ouyang Feng keep on practicing the false 9 Yin was made up
79. Ouyang Ke's legs never healed in the novel
80. The effort to find the 1,000 old ginseng to heal Hong Qigong was made up
81. Zhou Botong didn't redirect the cannon to save Huang Rong, Guo Jing and Hong QiGong after they returned to the Mainland, this is all made up.
82. Mu NianCi didn't show up until later in the novel, so she didn't meet Mei Chaofeng and saved her, another made up subplot
83. Yang Kang didn't beg Wangyan Honglie to let her marry Mu NianCi
84. Mei Chaofeng didn't walk into the palace to force Yang Kang to meet Mu Nianci, so she never fought with Ouyang Feng until later, made up scene again
85. Yang Kang did not beg Mu NianCi to marry her and they never got married in the novel
86. Mei Chaofeng didn't meet Huang Yaoshi to find the 7 Freaks
87. Guo Jing and Huang Rong did not go to the Iron palm section to ask for info on North Beggar's whereabout, this whole episode with the wooden men is all made
up by TVB
88. Zhou Botong didn't save Guo Jing behind the waterfall in the Song palace
89. Sha Gu only knew three peach blossom island moves, she wasn't trying to scare off Zhou Botong, Huang Rong and the rest, an exaggerated scene by TVB
90. Zhou Botong didn't help Guo Jing and Huang Rong inside the hidden room
91. The watermelon scene was missing inside the hidden room
92. Huang Rong and Guo Jing never cease to hold hand inside the room
93. Obviously since Lu Guanying's marriage scene was done too early, this whole scene was missing
94. Ouyang Ke was reason why Huang Rong lost his dog beating stick not because she dropped it when she was helping the injured Guo Jing
95. Guo Jing and Huang Rong was supposed to see the fight between Huang Yaoshi and 7 Quanzhen masters, this is the time when Guo Jing understood the book of changes, the big dipper and the relationship to 9 Yin.
96. This is the scene when Guo Jing busted out from the room with Huang Rong and found out that Hua Zheng and To Lui were in trouble and met them again for the first time, but TVB already changed the plot, so the impact was lost when they saved To Lui and Hua Zheng, this is when Huang Rong first met Hua Zheng and Huang Yaoshi got furious.
97. Yang Kang was supposed to meet the 7 Quanzhen master with Mu NianCi while carrying the dog beating stick on the way to the beggar union meeting not at the Ox Village house
98. Guo Jing and Huang Rong did not go to the beggar union meeting with Zhou Botong and Hong Qigong
99. Yang Kang did not tell Mu NianCi he was Hong Qigong's disciple, a made up subplot.
100. The discovery of the painting which led to later finding of Yue Fei's war manual inside the hidden room was missing.
others:
- yang kang never married mu nianci
- Guo jing never fought Yang Kang on the beach, the duel never happened.
- the romantic scenes between Yang kang and Mu Nianci prior to the death of Yang Kang's parents, were made up by TVBs because the show was popular
- Qiu Qianren and Yang Kang never attacked Quanzhen
- Guo Jing didn't know Yi Yang finger, he onlyknew how to mimick the technique to scare off Ouyang Feng
- The biggest inconsistency is TVB's use of the word Condor [jiù is the pinyin for vultures, which are foul smelling carrion eaters] instead of the correct word Eagle [diao is the pinyin used in the official names for the various eagle species in China]. Would you link the heroes of two famous novels with a carrion eater?
(credit: temujin, wuliner, wizard, me)