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Post by zh0angmey on May 30, 2019 17:04:50 GMT
Between Guo Xiang the supreme master of Emei and Guo Po Luo, which of them is older? And how come the celebration was more about Guo Xiang then Guo Po Luo?
Are they not born the same?
How come not much is talked about Guo Po Luo?
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Post by siuyiu on May 31, 2019 2:06:31 GMT
guo xiang is the older twin. and yeah, it IS interesting that she gets all the attention, especially on their shared b-day. it's almost like he was only created so that the guo family could have a son to carry on the name. though i believe he died in that final battle with his parents and without producing offspring.
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Post by zh0angmey on May 31, 2019 3:47:11 GMT
Do you think Jin laoshi must have written more about him and it will be shown in this new version of the Condor Heroes?
Could this be perhaps the reason they are calling it the new version of the Condor Heroes from the poster?
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 2, 2019 19:32:33 GMT
i have not read the 3rd editions of JY's novels, so i don't know what further changes were made and whether these will be used inthe new adaptations. also, i don't really know of any adaptation that really truly kept all the original storylines and character personalities/intentions--there's always SOMETHING that the filmmakers do that they think is better than the original. not saying JY's stories are faultless, but the changes i've noticed tend to be for the worst and make no sense.
so, in short, i don't know if more was written about GPL in the 3rd editions and neither do i know if the new adaptations will give him a storyline. i doubt it, though. he tends to be one of those everybody-forgets-about characters.
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Post by zh0angmey on Jun 2, 2019 21:57:26 GMT
I agree with you that some film producer might think some of the scene in the novel might not make sense and so they might try to make it look more sensible when filming?
Although Jin laoshi might not have written much more for Guo Po Luo, what do you think because of so many people that have been talking about how Guo Po Luo doesn't get enough balance story as Guo Xiang that the film producer might think about giving him more to talk about?
Would it be nice if they have scenes showing Guo Jing teaching Guo Po Luo the Xiang Long Shi Ba Zheng?
I sure hope this new version become great, what about you?
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 2, 2019 23:22:30 GMT
honestly, the only thing i would like from new adaptations is for the fighting to not look ridiculous, the women to look plastic, and the basic storyline to remain intact. the productions in recent years have relied more on gimmicks than good, solid storytelling.
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 3, 2019 2:35:41 GMT
guo xiang is the older twin. and yeah, it IS interesting that she gets all the attention, especially on their shared b-day. it's almost like he was only created so that the guo family could have a son to carry on the name. though i believe he died in that final battle with his parents and without producing offspring. siuyiu and anyone Do you think he possible already married and have children before the Battle or could he possible injured on his face and lost his memory after the Battle of Xinyang ? My Japanese friend said Ryu from Street Fighter are his Descendant and Hadouken are evolved From Dragon 18 Palm. Imagine that he was captured by Yuan after the Battle and since he lost his memory his life was spared . He later involved in Yuan Invasion Of Japan and his ship was hit by Kamikaze Typhoons in 1281 and his began to regain his memory after captured by a Japanese female Samurai warrior named Sora ,he later marry her and mixed his 18 Dragon Palm with Japanese martial art and later evolved into Hadouken. Akuma,rival to Ryu could be possible descendant from his first wife Li Chun who leave the city with Her child before the Battle Of Xinyang . What Do you think?
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Post by zh0angmey on Jun 3, 2019 2:51:16 GMT
But do you think Jin laoshi would love for his whatever beloved characters to have more to say rather than just be someone that is just there for certain events and that would be all?
I mean if you were to create a character for a novel, even if this character is just a little role, wouldn't you still want your character to looks great on TV drama series if a film producer were making your novel into a TV drama series?
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 3, 2019 22:57:16 GMT
@galvatron that's an interesting possibility--i don't know the novels well enough to comment on how plausible it is. anyone? zh0angmey for the most part, JY does a pretty good job at characterization. but there are some minor ones who exist to serve the storyline instead of having their own character arc. i feel GPL is one of these types of characters. obviously, there's nothing wrong with filmmakers creating a story arc for him, but if you want to know whether that is "strictly canon" and in line with JY's intentions for the character, well, that's up for debate!
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Post by zh0angmey on Jun 5, 2019 13:29:13 GMT
ummmm Well consider it like this, if someone you know were to go for a movie try out, wouldn't you want that person to be in the best character role possible or even being the main character of the movie?
You wouldn't want your best pals or whoever you know to be just in some little role character in a movie that would only show up for a few brief seconds would you?
I think Jin laoshi would like any film makers to make all of his characters creation to looks great whether they are big or small role.....?
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2019 8:49:14 GMT
siuyiu and anyone Do you think he possible already married and have children before the Battle or could he possible injured on his face and lost his memory after the Battle of Xinyang ? My Japanese friend said Ryu from Street Fighter are his Descendant and Hadouken are evolved From Dragon 18 Palm. Imagine that he was captured by Yuan after the Battle and since he lost his memory his life was spared . He later involved in Yuan Invasion Of Japan and his ship was hit by Kamikaze Typhoons in 1281 and his began to regain his memory after captured by a Japanese female Samurai warrior named Sora ,he later marry her and mixed his 18 Dragon Palm with Japanese martial art and later evolved into Hadouken. Akuma,rival to Ryu could be possible descendant from his first wife Li Chun who leave the city with Her child before the Battle Of Xinyang . [/quote] I guess it's almost impossible for GJ to teach GPL XL18Z, as XL18Z was supposed to be passed down to Kaypang students only. When H7G taught GJ XL18Z because HR's trick, he didn't teach GJ the whole XL18Z. He only taught GJ the whole when GJ became his formal student.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2019 8:53:27 GMT
honestly, the only thing i would like from new adaptations is for the fighting to not look ridiculous, the women to look plastic, and the basic storyline to remain intact. the productions in recent years have relied more on gimmicks than good, solid storytelling. siuyiu and @all I wonder if it's only me. I think that HR and GF look like they're in around the same age Agree that those women look too plastic.
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 7, 2019 3:22:10 GMT
zh0angmey in a society that treats profit like deities, it's highly unlikely that a big star or very good actor would be willing to be cast in the role of a forgettable character who is basically an extra. unless it's some sort of comedy and they're spoofing. Admin yeah, the plasticity of the women makes it hard to judge age, which, i suppose, is the point! and good point that XL18Z was a beggar sect MA that should not have been "taught to an outsider". and GJ being the prim and proper type that he is would not have dared violate that rule.
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Post by zh0angmey on Jun 7, 2019 7:56:21 GMT
Are you talking about society as a whole on the whole planet or just some society or groups or people of some country?
I do not think that every major celebrity actors is like how you said about them only interested in high profit.....
Although you might not be able to get major celebrity to play as Guo Po Lou, I think the goal now for most film makers is to produce new young talents for the future of the drama TV series filming.
I haven't read the novel but from watching the drama TV series editions version..... In the beginning of the Condor Heroes series, the master of Guo Jing..... Ke Zhen--E Ke da xia was very strict on Guo Jing but toward the end of the series, he was very not very strict anymore toward Guo Jing and even Yang Guo.
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 7, 2019 15:09:49 GMT
siuyiu and anyone Do you think he possible already married and have children before the Battle or could he possible injured on his face and lost his memory after the Battle of Xinyang ? My Japanese friend said Ryu from Street Fighter are his Descendant and Hadouken are evolved From Dragon 18 Palm. Imagine that he was captured by Yuan after the Battle and since he lost his memory his life was spared . He later involved in Yuan Invasion Of Japan and his ship was hit by Kamikaze Typhoons in 1281 and his began to regain his memory after captured by a Japanese female Samurai warrior named Sora ,he later marry her and mixed his 18 Dragon Palm with Japanese martial art and later evolved into Hadouken. Akuma,rival to Ryu could be possible descendant from his first wife Li Chun who leave the city with Her child before the Battle Of Xinyang . I guess it's almost impossible for GJ to teach GPL XL18Z, as XL18Z was supposed to be passed down to Kaypang students only. When H7G taught GJ XL18Z because HR's trick, he didn't teach GJ the whole XL18Z. He only taught GJ the whole when GJ became his formal student. [/quote] Admin anyone Is Go Po Luo part of Beggars Clan? His mother is one Leader Of Beggars Clan,am I right on this ? What If his mother teach him Dragon Palm 18 ? How can he can viewed as outsider when he mother was one of the leader? Yelu Qi was also a outsider ,he not Han and he one of the leader of Beggars Clan ,am I right? I actually want to write a story about Go Po Luo survive The Xinyang Invasion and how he bring Dragon 18 Palm to Japan . Shall I write ? Ryu Hodouken was originally call Dragon Palm in Street Fighter 1 in 1987 ,later it changed to Hodouken in Street Fighter 2. I read a news in 1991 ,that claimed Capcom the game developers said Houdoken come From Dragon 18 Palm. Do you or anyone think Houdoken more powerful, faster ,deadly or upgrade version Dragon 18 Palm? Do you think Ken ,Ryu or Akuma Houduken can defeat Guo Jing And Xiao Feng Dragon 18 Palm if they face of one on one? Go Po Luo character was erased in Richie Ren Condor Hero. Guo Jing Character was Based On Guo Kan,a real History person and General. In history Guo Kan was one of the General who was in Charge of Invasion Of Xinyang while in Condor Hero Guo Jing in Change of Defending Xinyang. While Guo Jing was descendant from Guo Sheng from Water Margin,Guo Kan was descendant from Guo Ziyi 郭子儀 A general from Tang Dynasty. Guo Kan also involved in War of Baghdad (Today Iraq Capital) and Mongol invasions of Poland and the only Chinese to become A Governor in ,Baghdad 1258.
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