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Post by siuyiu on May 27, 2014 19:57:07 GMT
(including the ghost-written ones)
Standalones
Cangqiong Shenjian (蒼穹神劍) (1960)
Yueyi Xingxie (月異星邪) (1960)
Jianqi Shu Xiang (劍氣書香)* (1960)
Xiangfei Jian (湘妃劍) (1960)
Jian Du Mei Xiang (劍毒梅香)* (1960)
Guxing Zhuan (孤星傳) (1960)
Shihun Yin (失魂引) (1961)
Chronicle of the Travelling Hero (遊俠錄) (1961)
Huhua Ling (護花鈴) (1962)
Caihuan Qu (彩環曲) (1962)
Canjin Queyu (殘金缺玉) (1962)
Piaoxiang Jianyu (飄香劍雨) (1963)
Jianxuan Lu (劍玄錄) (1963)
The Swordsman's Conduct (劍客行) (1963)
Wanhua Xijian Lu (浣花洗劍錄) (1964)
The Lover's Arrow (情人箭) (1964)
The Legend of the Bannered Heroes (大旗英雄傳) (1965)
The Unofficial History of the Martial World (武林外史) (1965)
Mingjian Fengliu (名劍風流)* (1966)
The Legendary Twins (絕代雙驕) (1967)
A Happy Hero (歡樂英雄) (1971)
VIP (大人物) (1971)
Meteor, Butterfly, Sword (流星‧蝴蝶‧劍) (1973)
The Seven Assassins (七殺手) (1975)
Jian, Hua, Yanyu, Jiangnan (劍‧花‧煙雨‧江南) (1975)
Qiang Shou, Shou Qiang (槍手‧手槍) (1975)
Jue Bu Di Tou (絕不低頭) (1975)
The Third Master's Sword (三少爺的劍) (1975)
The White Jade Tiger (白玉老虎) (1976) The White Jade Dragon Carving (白玉雕龍)* (1981)
Dadi Feiying (大地飛鷹) (1976)
Bixue Xi Yinqiang (碧血洗銀槍) (1976)
Fist (拳頭) (1976)
Full Moon, Curved Sabre (圓月彎刀)* (1977)
Heroes Shed No Tears (英雄無淚) (1978)
Qixing Longwang (七星龍王) (1978)
The Sabre's Echo in the Wind Chimes (風鈴中的刀聲)* (1980)
Nujian Kuanghua (怒劍狂花)* (1982)
Na Yijian De Fengqing (那一劍的風情)* (1982)
The Thorn of the Chrysanthemum (菊花的刺) (1985)
Tiejian Hongyan (鐵劍紅顏)
Fennu De Xiaoma (憤怒的小馬)
Xiaoli Feidao (Dagger Li) Series (小李飛刀系列)
Sentimental Swordsman, Ruthless Sword (多情劍客無情劍) (1970) Bordertown Wanderer (邊城浪子) (1976) The Prowling Eagles in September (九月鷹飛) (1974) Horizon, Bright Moon, Sabre (天涯‧明月‧刀) (1975) Dagger Echoes in the Bordertown (邊城刀聲)* (1983) A Flying Dagger, A Flying Dagger Reappears (飛刀,又見飛刀) (1977)
Xiao Shiyilang Series (蕭十一郎系列)
The Eleventh Son (蕭十一郎) (1973) Igniting the Eleventh Son (火併蕭十一郎) (1976)
Chu Liuxiang Series (楚留香系列)
The Bloodied Ocean Emits Fragrance (血海飄香) (1968) The Great Desert (大沙漠) (1969) The Thrush (畫眉鳥) (1970) Ghostly Romance, Hero's Love (鬼戀俠情) AKA Borrowing a Corpse to Resuscitate (借屍還魂) (1970) The Legend of the Bat (蝙蝠傳奇) (1971) The Legend of the Peach Blossom (桃花傳奇) (1972) The Legend of the New Moon (新月傳奇) (1978) Midnight Orchid (午夜蘭花) (1979)
Lu Xiaofeng Series (陸小鳳系列)
The Legend of Lu Xiaofeng (陸小鳳傳奇) (1976) The Embroidery Bandit (繡花大盜) (1976) The Onset and Aftermath of the Duel (決戰前後) (1976) The Silver Hook Gambling Den (銀鈎賭坊) (1977) The Ghostly Manor (幽靈山莊) (1977) The Phoenix Dances in the Heavens (鳳舞九天) (1978) The Divine Swordman's Smile (劍神一笑) (1981)
Seven Weapons Series (七种武器系列)
Changsheng Jian (長生劍) (1974) Kongque Ling (孔雀翎) (1974) Biyu Dao (碧玉刀) (1974) Duoqing Huan (多情環) (1974) Bawang Qiang (霸王槍) (1975) Libie Gou (離別鉤) (1978)
The Era of the Great Heroes Series (大武俠時代)
Duju Langya Zhuisha (賭局、狼牙、追殺) (1984) Ziyan Qunhu (紫煙、群狐) (1984) Yindiao Haishen (銀雕、海神) (1984)
Jinghun Liuji Series (驚魂六記系列)
Xue Yingwu (血鸚鵡) (1974) Tianmo Dao (天魔刀)* Hei Xiyi (黑蜥蜴)* Shuijing Ren (水晶人)* Fen Kulou (粉骷髏)/Luocha Nü (羅剎女)* Wuyi Bianfu (無翼蝙蝠)*
(*at least partially ghost-written by others)
source: Among the Rivers and Lakes Wiki, wikipedia
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Post by reinafu on Jul 16, 2014 9:45:26 GMT
Is there an English translation of The legendary twins somewhere, please ?
I just finished to watch the series and there are some points which are a little bit obscure for me and I even wonder if the vcd format of the series might be cut : there are some scenes shown during the song that I never saw in the episodes and the end doesn't explain what happens with the woman in white who was in love with the twins' father and get white hair at the end...
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Post by Lone Crane on Jul 16, 2014 10:07:48 GMT
Is there an English translation of The legendary twins somewhere, please ? I just finished to watch the series and there are some points which are a little bit obscure for me and I even wonder if the vcd format of the series might be cut : there are some scenes shown during the song that I never saw in the episodes and the end doesn't explain what happens with the woman in white who was in love with the twins' father and get white hair at the end... Here you go: www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthread.php/11810-Legendary-Siblings-Unabridged-(COMPLETED)#.U8ZOfeOSz4Y
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Post by reinafu on Jul 16, 2014 10:14:28 GMT
Thanks a lot !
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Post by siuyiu on Jul 23, 2015 19:04:47 GMT
@all members who've read GL's works, which books would you say are the best and most representative ones of the entire opus? and which one would you say is a good first-ever story for someone who's never read GL?
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Post by siuyiu on Jul 23, 2015 19:29:58 GMT
@all members who've read GL's works, which books would you say are the best and most representative ones of the entire opus? and which one would you say is a good first-ever story for someone who's never read GL? i think one of GL's best works is TYMYD, though the one i re-read most often (because it's fun and features my favourite character) is LXF3. for first timers, i think i'd suggest the first 3 CLX novels if they have a heavily-traditional-wuxia preference (it's the most easily palatable) or LXHDJ if they want a single, stand-alone story and a general idea of what GL's style is all about. my other faves include LXF1, LXHDJ, CLX4, and YXWL. for GL, more so than any other wuxia author, "best" is very subjective, so no point in listing the books that are generally accepted as his best works. so, what are your choices?
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Post by kyc on Sept 1, 2018 3:44:14 GMT
I have just read Tianya Mingyue Dao (天涯明月刀, "The Horizon, Bright Moon, Saber") and agree that it's excellent. In fact it's wonderful. So intriguing and unpredictable, such razor-sharp prose. A completely different wuxia world from Jin Yong, but one just as intoxicating.
Another good thing is that it's pretty short: one book.
Another, shorter novel collected in the same volume is Flying Dagger, the Flying Dagger Re-appears (飛刀,又見飛刀). Even though it isn't in my opinion as good as Tianya Mingyue Dao, it's still a very good short novel. For the latter the novelization came after the movie. Due to a wrist injury Gu Long narrated the story and someone else wrote it down for him. But that person obviously mixed up some of the drafts, because there are some minor inconsistencies and repetitions in the published version. Nonetheless it's very much worth reading.
I have just borrowed Liuxing, Hudie, Jian (流星蝴蝶劍, "Meteors, Butterfly, Sword") and will update on how the novel reads for me. Again it's just one volume, which made it easier to approach for a quick reader.
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Post by siuyiu on Sept 1, 2018 19:57:00 GMT
kyc i'm so glad you liked TYMYD--as i've mentioned, it's one of my faves! would love your impressions on LXHDJ once you've finished! GL really knows how to pack a punch with his shorter novels, though i do think it worthwhile to read the longer novels of his middle and late periods. his early works tend to be more in the conventional/traditional style, and some do prefer that style to his later one. though i think true GL fans would define themselves as those who prefer his later, individualized style.
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Post by kyc on Sept 6, 2018 2:28:12 GMT
Finally I finished Liuxing, Hudie, Jian (流星蝴蝶劍, "Meteor, Butterfly, Sword"). In my estimation it's just a little lower than Tianya, Mingyue, Dao (天涯明月刀, "The Horizon, Bright Moon, Saber"). The plot was as nail-biting, but probably the main reason why I didn't like it as much was the misogynistic streak in LXHDJ. Two of the women characters use their bodies all the time to achieve their goals; advices not to treat women well or trust them are spluttered throughout the text. The one angelic girl, Xiaodie, is its least interesting and convincing character.
Well, its strengths--there are many--include the usual Gu Long virtues. The novel isn't as pithy as TYMYD: it's nearly twice as long. But the plot has lots of twists and turns that will keep you guessing.
In one volume this is an excellent novel and a very good introduction to Gu Long. Probably gives much insight into his life and works, more than TYMYD. You can see he places friendship on a higher realm than romantic love, his mistrust of women, treating them as playthings etc. Then if you read his biography you could make out traces of this philosophy too... The fact he had affairs and illegitimate children with dance hostesses might have colored his views of many women.
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Post by reinafu on Sept 6, 2018 19:35:05 GMT
I have the luck to have watched the series with Adam Cheng (and also the Shaws' Killer clans) and I confirm that the girl playing his daughter was totally insignifiant in the series ! Also, the other girl (the one who played Norman Tsui's daughter) was absolutely annoying, always being capricious and runnig after the assassin, even knowing that he loved Hudie !
The only woman interesting in this series was the boss of the assassins, who had raised and trained them. I'm not sure, but it seems to me that she was in love with one of them...I don't know how is her character in the book, but at least, she was able to fight and had an interesting role.
Also, how is the last assassin's character in the book ? In the series, he appear in the very last episodes and should have deserved a bigger on screen time in my opinion.
I would love to watch the 1978 series with Luo Le Lin, just to see how they adapted the book in these early years, and with Luo Le Lin in it, it must be a great one !
I wonder if it's worth watching the modern series with Huang Wei De...
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Post by siuyiu on Sept 6, 2018 23:31:48 GMT
Finally I finished Liuxing, Hudie, Jian (流星蝴蝶劍, "Meteor, Butterfly, Sword"). In my estimation it's just a little lower than Tianya, Mingyue, Dao (天涯明月刀, "The Horizon, Bright Moon, Saber"). The plot was as nail-biting, but probably the main reason why I didn't like it as much was the misogynistic streak in LXHDJ. Two of the women characters use their bodies all the time to achieve their goals; advices not to treat women well or trust them are spluttered throughout the text. The one angelic girl, Xiaodie, is its least interesting and convincing character. Well, its strengths--there are many--include the usual Gu Long virtues. The novel isn't as pithy as TYMYD: it's nearly twice as long. But the plot has lots of twists and turns that will keep you guessing. In one volume this is an excellent novel and a very good introduction to Gu Long. Probably gives much insight into his life and works, more than TYMYD. You can see he places friendship on a higher realm than romantic love, his mistrust of women, treating them as playthings etc. Then if you read his biography you could make out traces of this philosophy too... The fact he had affairs and illegitimate children with dance hostesses might have colored his views of many women. yes, i totally agree that LXHDJ contains some of the best and worst aspects of GL's unique writing style. the misogyny is very off-putting, and i'm sure that's one of many reasons why some readers can't stomach his writing. another is that plot twists, while obviously unexpected, often defy logic--it's more shock value than anything else. i also agree that from a stylistic POV, TYMYD is the epitome of GL's moody, abstract style. there isn't much plot, and we once again have a depressed hero. but yeah, the atmosphere created is fab. so, are you sworn off GL or do you intend to tackle some of his longer works?
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Post by siuyiu on Sept 6, 2018 23:36:27 GMT
I have the luck to have watched the series with Adam Cheng (and also the Shaws' Killer clans) and I confirm that the girl playing his daughter was totally insignifiant in the series ! Also, the other girl (the one who played Norman Tsui's daughter) was absolutely annoying, always being capricious and runnig after the assassin, even knowing that he loved Hudie !
The only woman interesting in this series was the boss of the assassins, who had raised and trained them. I'm not sure, but it seems to me that she was in love with one of them...I don't know how is her character in the book, but at least, she was able to fight and had an interesting role.
Also, how is the last assassin's character in the book ? In the series, he appear in the very last episodes and should have deserved a bigger on screen time in my opinion.
I would love to watch the 1978 series with Luo Le Lin, just to see how they adapted the book in these early years, and with Luo Le Lin in it, it must be a great one !
I wonder if it's worth watching the modern series with Huang Wei De...
adam cheng starred in a tv adaptation of LXHDJ?! is it a taiwan or mainland production? for the HK productions, i can only recall the CTV one. it's been a while since i read the book, but i think the boss of assassins was in love with the drunkard assassin, but maybe i'm misremembering.
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Post by kyc on Sept 7, 2018 2:14:11 GMT
yes, i totally agree that LXHDJ contains some of the best and worst aspects of GL's unique writing style. the misogyny is very off-putting, and i'm sure that's one of many reasons why some readers can't stomach his writing. another is that plot twists, while obviously unexpected, often defy logic--it's more shock value than anything else. i also agree that from a stylistic POV, TYMYD is the epitome of GL's moody, abstract style. there isn't much plot, and we once again have a depressed hero. but yeah, the atmosphere created is fab. so, are you sworn off GL or do you intend to tackle some of his longer works? Actually, I love GL! What gave you the impression that I will swear off him? Will definitely tackle some of his longer works in the future. I only didn't like LXHDJ as much as TYMYD... that said I still like the book very much, and I agree with everything you have said. (Even though the fact everyone thinks of vomiting so much makes the book a little odd...) I once had a love-hate relationship with JY too. Now I have grown out of it... Doesn't really matter, I suppose, unless you prefer to nitpick. Even the sun has sunspots... BTW the boss of the assassins, Madame Gao (高老大), was in love with the main assassin Meng Xinghun (孟星魂), but {{spoilers}} eventually ends up with another assassin Shi Qun (石群), who only turned up in the last few chapters. Shi Qun is rather mysterious and plays a flute, and doesn't have much time in the book either. I shall also check out Killer Clans if I could. Curious as to how well Gu Long translates to the big screen.
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Post by kyc on Sept 7, 2018 2:44:11 GMT
For lovers of LXHDJ, there was an TV series that was based off it, made by Singapore's SBC (now Mediacorp) and released in 1993. It's called 莲花争霸, The Great Conspiracy, and was 60% based on LXHDJ. The names were somewhat changed, but the characters were recognizably similar. Maybe owing to the lawsuits between Gu Long's sons, SBC couldn't secure the copyright... or maybe it was entirely a rip-off. Anyway, the ending was totally different, shamelessly plagiarizing another Wuxia classic, The Smiling, Proud Wanderer. The antagonist castrates himself and becomes a woman. "He" was played by a female actress. The series was quite popular in China when brought there in 1994. Till this day many there still rave about Bai Yuchuan (白玉川). (No prizes for guessing who he represents in the book.) The theme song was sung (in Mandarin) by Roman Tam. Anyone interested in this series can check it out in mainland Chinese video sites. It remains quite popular.
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Post by siuyiu on Sept 7, 2018 4:28:40 GMT
yes, i totally agree that LXHDJ contains some of the best and worst aspects of GL's unique writing style. the misogyny is very off-putting, and i'm sure that's one of many reasons why some readers can't stomach his writing. another is that plot twists, while obviously unexpected, often defy logic--it's more shock value than anything else. i also agree that from a stylistic POV, TYMYD is the epitome of GL's moody, abstract style. there isn't much plot, and we once again have a depressed hero. but yeah, the atmosphere created is fab. so, are you sworn off GL or do you intend to tackle some of his longer works? Actually, I love GL! What gave you the impression that I will swear off him? Will definitely tackle some of his longer works in the future. I only didn't like LXHDJ as much as TYMYD... that said I still like the book very much, and I agree with everything you have said. (Even though the fact everyone thinks of vomiting so much makes the book a little odd...) I once had a love-hate relationship with JY too. Now I have grown out of it... Doesn't really matter, I suppose, unless you prefer to nitpick. Even the sun has sunspots... BTW the boss of the assassins, Madame Gao (高老大), was in love with the main assassin Meng Xinghun (孟星魂), but {{spoilers}} eventually ends up with another assassin Shi Qun (石群), who only turned up in the last few chapters. Shi Qun is rather mysterious and plays a flute, and doesn't have much time in the book either. I shall also check out Killer Clans if I could. Curious as to how well Gu Long translates to the big screen. i was teasing. you could not have written the review you did if you loathed him. thanks for he reminder about madame gao--honestly couldn't remember. and would you care to elaborate on why you had a love-hate relationship with JY? killer clans is one of the best shaw bros wuxia productions ever, IMO.
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