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Post by kyc on Feb 28, 2022 11:43:00 GMT
I'm starting a thread on this, partly in response to some genuinely weird casting or bad acting in recent JY dramas. You can nominate someone earlier of course. Nomination 1: Joseph Lee's Jiumozhi (1997) I'm not the greatest fan of his portrayal. It's not really his fault. In the book, Jiumozhi is a menacing, crafty monk. In this version, he has been relegated to a comic character. Every time he appears, I either facepalm myself, or simply join the crowd and laugh. He's not the Jiumozhi of the book, far from it. Nomination 2: Jia Qing's A'zi (2013) Jia Qing plays A'zhu and A'zi as twin sisters. Her A'zhu is passable, but her A'zi is truly irritating in the bad sense. I mean in the acting sense, very superficial: puffing cheeks, overacting with childish expressions, with none of the spine-tingling sadism and viciousness in the book. Not to mention her always wearing this gaudy, purple robe she never seems to wash, which you can see from miles away. A few episodes with her into the series, I gave up. Her later scenes with Wallace Chung may be better, but the earlier ones contain so much overacting, I couldn't go on. Nomination 3: Ding Guansen's Linghu Chong (2018) This must be the most miscast major character in a JY drama series ever. Ding Guansen is of course not your usual handsome guy. They say he looks more like an extra. I can only say it's hard to believe many girls will fall for him. With his kind of looks, he can be a future character actor (not a bad thing), but JY fans aren't so charitable. It's not his fault that he looks like an 18-year-old. (In the book, Linghu Chong is in his early 30s.) Actors do not cast themselves. But the director should have known better. It creates all kinds of incredible responses when he is called "Big Brother" and has to call the shots when all his "junior brothers" look 10 years older than him. First episode on Dailymotion: His young, common looks make the love scenes less convincing: I'm sure there are more miscasting but I'm not so much into TV dramas. But if I were to start a similar thread on LYS dramas, it would be a dozen pages by now.
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Post by atumiwa on Feb 28, 2022 15:42:55 GMT
#0 : Xiao Long Nv 2014
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Post by siuyiu on Feb 28, 2022 23:46:37 GMT
this xiaolongnu and this yang guo:
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Post by siuyiu on Feb 28, 2022 23:52:54 GMT
this zhou botong:
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Post by siuyiu on Mar 1, 2022 0:04:01 GMT
this ouyang ke:
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Post by siuyiu on Mar 1, 2022 0:06:43 GMT
this murong fu: this duan zhengchun:
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Post by galvatron prime on Mar 1, 2022 10:34:39 GMT
this murong fu: this duan zhengchun: siuyiuI told you are fan of Poon Chin Man or you change your opinion now ,am i wrong on this ? I told it was nothing wrong he act as Duan Zheng Chun . I told Chow Yun Fatt was weird cast as Lingwu Chong ,do you agree with this? Richie Jen was very popular in the Muslim World in South East Asian,he was a friend of Ah Niu ,A Malaysian Singer ,so maybe they chose him to play Yang Guo .
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Post by galvatron prime on Mar 1, 2022 10:42:51 GMT
I'm starting a thread on this, partly in response to some genuinely weird casting or bad acting in recent JY dramas. You can nominate someone earlier of course. Nomination 1: Joseph Lee's Jiumozhi (1997) I'm not the greatest fan of his portrayal. It's not really his fault. In the book, Jiumozhi is a menacing, crafty monk. In this version, he has been relegated to a comic character. Every time he appears, I either facepalm myself, or simply join the crowd and laugh. He's not the Jiumozhi of the book, far from it. Nomination 2: Jia Qing's A'zi (2013) Jia Qing plays A'zhu and A'zi as twin sisters. Her A'zhu is passable, but her A'zi is truly irritating in the bad sense. I mean in the acting sense, very superficial: puffing cheeks, overacting with childish expressions, with none of the spine-tingling sadism and viciousness in the book. Not to mention her always wearing this gaudy, purple robe she never seems to wash, which you can see from miles away. A few episodes with her into the series, I gave up. Her later scenes with Wallace Chung may be better, but the earlier ones contain so much overacting, I couldn't go on. Nomination 3: Ding Guansen's Linghu Chong (2018) This must be the most miscast major character in a JY drama series ever. Ding Guansen of course isn't your usual handsome guy. They say he looks more like an extra. I can only say it's hard to believe many girls will fall for him. With his kind of looks, he can be a future character actor (not a bad thing), but JY fans aren't so charitable. It's not his fault that he looks like an 18-year-old. (In the book, Linghu Chong is in his early 30s.) Actors do not cast themselves. But the director should have known better. It creates all kinds of incredible responses when he is called "Big Brother" and has to call the shots when all his "junior brothers" look 10 years older than him. First episode on Dailymotion: His young, common looks make the love scenes less convincing: I'm sure there are more miscasting but I'm not so much into TV dramas. But if I were to start a similar thread on LYS dramas, it would be a dozen pages by now. Joseph Lee as a comical relief maybe is a tribute to Stephen Chow Mo Lei Tou,just like Sammo Hing comical relief as Cheung Sam Fung in Kungfu Cult Master . Stephen Chow King of Beggar So Chan ,The So Chan he play was actually a comical version of Xiao Feng .
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Post by kyc on Mar 1, 2022 12:58:24 GMT
Richie Ren as Yang Guo, Jacklyn Wu as Xiaolongnv - too creative casting. Black robes? I agree Chow Yun-Fat was miscast too. Xiaolongnv 2014 - Michelle Chen I remember one more: Lawrence Ng's Zhang Wuji. Too old, not the right looks. But some Mainland Chinese viewers love him. They love virtually every TVB JY drama of this period, lol.
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Post by siuyiu on Mar 2, 2022 0:16:29 GMT
@galvatron i do like pat poon as an actor--he's a good actor. but he is horribly miscast as duan zhengchun because he cannot portray the flamboyant playboy character. i just don't believe him when he's doing the role. as for chow yun fat, they changed the personality of linghu chong to match the actor, rather than the actor portraying the role. i'm less familiar with the character as i haven't read the book, but i've heard from those who have read the book that the portrayal is not accurate. is he the worst actor for the role? i don't know. kyc actually, while i agree that lawrence ng was too old when he played the role, he did a good job portraying zhang wuji. he's convincing as the wishy-washy, weak-willed character who gets bossed around and dominated by the women in his life.
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Post by soengyee on Mar 2, 2022 0:53:16 GMT
I would say that nearly all of the actresses who portrayed Ah Ke in all of DOMD adaptions are miscasts. This is not a case of bad acting because they all acted their parts well (especially Noel Leung Siu Bing, she acts perfectly) but they are all simply not lavishing nor pretty enough. Kiki Sheung from Tony's 1984 version acts well but she is not pretty enough at all. Carina Lau as Fang Yi and Mirta King Doi Yan as the princess are so much prettier than her. Therefore I guess she can be considered a miscast. Now if Carina Lau were to play the part of Ah Ke she would be perfect because she is one of the prettiest. Also Su Quan from the 1984 version is also played by a normal actress (Woi Hoi Yan). She is simply too old looking and not pretty, how can XiaoBao be attracted to her? She nearly looks like his mom in most scenes. Fung Hiu Man from Jordan Chan's 1998 version is so much better compared to her. Athena Chu as Ah Ke from Dicky Cheung's 2000 version is also a miscast because she is too short, too tanned and not as pretty either (but there's a lot wrong with this adaption so it's not a big deal). It's strange because I found her as Huang Rong in The Legend of the Condor Heroes 1994 to be quite pretty.
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 5:34:37 GMT
Miscasting/ bad acting 1. Richie Ren as YG 2. Richie Ren as LHC 3. Steve Ma as ZWJ 4. Lawrence Ng as ZWJ 5. Ding Guansen's Linghu Chong (2018) --》 I didnt watch the series, but the look itself is enough to prevent me from watching. 6. Michelle Chen as XLN 2014 7. Chow Yun Fat as LHC 8. Don't know the actress name, but the one who played as Zhao Min in Steve Ma's HSDS. 9. Zhang Meng as Wang Yuyan in DGSD 2013 --> her face doesn't fit to be WYY. 10. Jacklyn Wu as XLN 11. Kim Kibum as DY in DGSD 2013 12. Murong Fu in DGSD 2003 --> not handsome, not charismatic enough.
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Post by kyc on Mar 2, 2022 9:18:43 GMT
siuyiu, the case with Lawrence Ng is partly because I prefer Tony Leung's Zhang Wuji. I remember Lawrence Ng being very earnest as ZWJ, but overall, it's another case of me preferring a 1980s TVB series over the remake. I actually felt for Kitty Lai's Zhao Min (she's really pretty), a character I did not feel for when I read the book. And Charmaine Sheh's Zhou Zhiruo is not noticeably better (or worse) than Sheren Tang's. Tony Leung is still the best ZWJ for me: the dazed look in his eyes, good-looking but with looks never over-emphasized. soengyee, Ah Ke is again one of those "so pretty that she's near impossible to cast" JY characters. I don't remember the 1984 female cast well, but I do remember the Shuang'er, Carina Lau and Sandra Ng. The last because Ms. Ng had done a lot of molei tau acting when I first watched the series, and she plays the character really straight, which is kind of hilarious in itself. By 2000 Athena Chu had lost a bit of freshness: maybe she swam too much, overworked, or maybe it was because of a failed relationship, who knows. And yes, she was too tanned. But the 2000 adaptation was produced by Wong Jing. (As an aside, I think she now looks good again. ) Admin, strangely, JY liked Steve Ma's Zhang Wuji. This is another occasion where I do not agree with the author: I find Steve Ma's ZWJ too longwinded. But I admit I didn't really follow the series. As for Cecilia Yip (his Zhao Min), I agree she was miscast, but a lot of Taiwanese audiences loved her portrayal (maybe their love has migrated to Ady An, who was surely better cast in 2009.) Cecilia Yip is an excellent actress, but she's never the glamorous type and her beauty and charisma aren't the "skin deep" kind. She's another of Young Pei-pei's "creative casting", partly because she was popular on the island. As for the 2003 Murong Fu, everyone after Shek Sau has been hopelessly outclassed.
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Post by machete on Mar 2, 2022 12:43:51 GMT
this zhou botong: I like his other roles but I can never see him as a funny Zhou Botong.
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Post by machete on Mar 2, 2022 12:45:48 GMT
5. Ding Guansen's Linghu Chong (2018) --》 I didnt watch the series, but the look itself is enough to prevent me from watching. Maybe more suitable to play post-Pixie Lin Ping Zhi.
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