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Post by siuyiu on May 29, 2014 0:13:15 GMT
The Crane-Iron Series (鶴鐵系列)
Crane Frightens Kunlun (鶴驚崑崙)
Precious Sword, Golden Hairpin (寶劍金釵記)
Sword Force, Pearl Shine (劍氣珠光錄)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (臥虎藏龍)
Iron Knight, Silver Vase (鐵騎銀瓶)
Other Wuxia novels
He Yue Youxia Zhuan (河嶽遊俠傳)
Haibin Yi Xie (海濱憶寫)
Luo Xu Piaoxiang (落絮飄香)
Gucheng Xin Yue (古城新月)
Haishang Hong Xia (海上虹霞)
Yu Meiren (虞美人)
Hanmei Qu (寒梅曲)
Zi Dian Qing Shuang (紫電青霜)
Jin Dao Yu Pei Ji (金刀玉珮記)
Xin Xie Dizi (新血滴子)
Fengyu Shuanglong Jian (風雨雙龍劍)
Xiu Dai Yin Biao (繡帶銀鏢)
Leng Jian Qi Fang (冷劍淒芳)
Qi Shi Fang Pa (綺市芳葩)
Hanbo Yu Rui (寒波玉蕊)
Baodao Fei (寶刀飛)
Yan Shi Xia Ling (燕市俠伶)
Fen Mo Chanjuan (粉墨嬋娟)
Xia Meng Li Hun (霞夢離魂)
Linghun Zhi Suo (靈魂之鎖)
Baoyu Jing Yuan (暴雨驚鴛)
Luoyang Haoke (洛陽豪客)
Luoyang Haoke (cont.) (洛陽豪客(續))
Fengchen Si Jie (風塵四傑)
Xiangshan Nu Jia (香山女俠)
Jingang Yu Baojian (金剛玉寶劍)
Zi Feng Biao (紫鳳鏢)
Xu Tieqi Yinping (續鐵騎銀瓶)
Longhu Tie Lianhuan (龍虎鐵連環)
Chunqiu Ji (春秋戟)
source: Among the Rivers and Lakes Wiki
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Post by Admin on Nov 20, 2017 7:56:44 GMT
Is there anyone here read Wang Dulu's novel? how is it?
Recently I read an article about Wang Dulu,and the article mentioned that the characters in WDL's novel are very down to earth, in which mean they could have caught flu, running out of money, etc. The heroes on his novel don't know how to "fly" around or jumping so high with their qinggong - which actually make the adaptation of the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon a total opposite of the real novel. So basically those martial artists could only use their qinggong to jump up to the edge of roofs, and from it he/she could do another leap, and so on. And perhaps the real martial arts are like that!
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Post by kyc on Aug 5, 2018 12:03:21 GMT
Is there anyone here read Wang Dulu's novel? how is it? Recently I read an article about Wang Dulu,and the article mentioned that the characters in WDL's novel are very down to earth, in which mean they could have caught flu, running out of money, etc. The heroes on his novel don't know how to "fly" around or jumping so high with their qinggong - which actually make the adaptation of the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon a total opposite of the real novel. So basically those martial artists could only use their qinggong to jump up to the edge of roofs, and from it he/she could do another leap, and so on. And perhaps the real martial arts are like that! Hi all. This is my first post, so I hope everyone bear a little with me. My interest in wuxia literature has reignited in the past few weeks. Due to the free time I have convalescing from a long illness, I have managed to read 3 Wang Dulu novels in the past 2 weeks. It made me much more interested in the wuxia genre and I have decided to register myself (formally) as a fan. In the past I have only read Jin Yong (Louis Cha) books and one other novel by Liang Yusheng, so I'm not actually that much of an aficionado. Yes, like what Admin said Wang Dulu's novels are very down to earth. The heroes/heroines get sick, get distracted when they fight, don't possess superhuman hearing abilities/qinggong, and pretty much all their kungfu are believable. Wang Dulu does not spend much time describing actual hand-to-hand combat like Jin Yong, but you don't miss them, because so many things are going on. His writing style is excellent (文笔很好), his writing style is very much in the May Fourth movement like Shen Congwen etc. His forte is in describing female characters. In fact in all the books I read the females are more prominent. Girls will enjoy his writing since there isn't so much gore in them. The novels I read are all around the length of Jin Yong's Flying Fox (雪山飞狐) - shorter, one-book novels. They are, in order of my reading: Fengyu Shuanglong Jian 风雨双龙剑、Damo Shuangyuan Pu 大漠双鸳谱 and Xianxian Jian 纤纤剑. Of the three, I think the last is the best, although all three are good. His wuxia novels are being reissued in Mainland China in simplified characters, which is the edition I read. The first two series are out (the Crane Iron Pentalogy + his shorter novels). Next year or so they will publish his non-wuxia novels. Reading these novels convinced me that wuxia novels should be treated as real literature, not just light reading materials. I will no doubt go on reading more Wang Dulu and other wuxia novels since I have quite a lot of free time now.
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Post by reinafu on Aug 5, 2018 12:41:22 GMT
First, welcome to the forum, and second, thank you very much for your post regarding Wang Du Lu"s novels. In France, I found 3 or 4 books related to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, but I don't think that this is the complete series and I'm ashamed to say that I still haven't read them. When I take a look at Siyu's post, it seems that the movie with the same name is the 4th part of the cycle, which explains the references to past events, but I didn't really appreciate the movie. I thought that the kung fu shown was precisely too much of a non realistic one, with men fighting on trees' leaves !! Reading your comments makes me slowly thinking of deciding to finally read these novels....when I'll find a while !
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Post by kyc on Aug 5, 2018 13:50:15 GMT
Thank you for your welcome, reinafu. I wonder if you read Chinese? If you do, you can try hunting out the new edition which is published in Mainland China.
I've added a brief writeup on each novel I have read, hopefully without giving away too much of a spoiler (basically the setup of the first chapter or so). All three novels are set in the Qing dynasty (1644-1911): ---------
1) Fengyu Shuanglong Jian 风雨双龙剑
An accomplished martial artist possesses two extremely sharp and priceless ancient swords, which are brethren weapons. The longer one is called 苍龙腾雨,the other is 白龙吟风。The older blade is said to be inauspicious, while the second is auspicious.
The martial artist, one Chen Boyu, befriends an inferior fighter, Zhang San, and helps him fend off an enemy, using the first blade. Little does he guess Zhang San secretly covets that blade...
Expect: a beautiful daughter, a highly skilled nun, one woman bandit, a handsome male fighter who is (expectedly) related to the feud
2) Damo Shuangyuan Pu 大漠双鸳谱
An impoverished pair of brother and sister travels to Xinjiang so that the sister can marry her betrothed. Along the way, the martial artist brother is tricked by a wealthy and influential town merchant who abducts the sister. The brother gets to know a highly skilled old fighter and her beautiful daughter...
Expect: three men and three women entangled in love triangles, and a sad yet memorable ending
3) Xianxian Jian 纤纤剑
A middle-aged man, with his wife and a beautiful young daughter, sets up an escort agency at his hometown. Before setting out for escort each time, his daughter would tie a butterfly knot as a symbol on top of a pole. The second-in-charge tries to find out why the butterfly knot works miracles...
Expect: A memorable love triangle, intriguing first few chapters, an ugly hero
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Post by reinafu on Aug 5, 2018 15:33:04 GMT
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Post by siuyiu on Aug 5, 2018 17:56:48 GMT
kyc welcome! thank you so much for sharing your thought on WDL's works! when you do read more of his works, please let us know all about them! that's wonderful to hear that his novels are being made available again for a new generation! and i absolutely agree that wuxia needs to be more recognized as a proper genre of fiction rather than just a niche form with a cult following. can you please explain what the May Fourth writing style is like?
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Post by reinafu on Aug 5, 2018 19:12:11 GMT
And I'd like to know if there have been movies adapted form his novels besides Crouching tiger, hidden dragon, please.
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Post by kyc on Aug 6, 2018 3:32:04 GMT
can you please explain what the May Fourth writing style is like? Hi siuyiu. Probably less like Jin Yong's usual style, which is semi-classical - that is, more compact, like classical vernacular literature of the past than of the present. Wang Dulu's style is looser and closer to modern literature, although that said I believe he has a more extensive vocabulary than used in Jin Yong. There are quite a lot of dated, literary terms, and my Chinese is never the best, but I must have learned hundreds of new words which I don't encounter in Jin Yong. It's more like reading Jin Yong's "Young Flying Fox" (飞狐外传)and "Swordswoman Riding West in the Wind" (白马啸西风)than the standard four-book Jin Yong novel. As for adaptations, I think they did a sequel to Crouching Tiger. That's about it. Wang Dulu is having a mini-revival, so I won't be surprised if they shoot a TV series based on one of his novels. I'm visiting the library today. I wonder if I should borrow another Wang Dulu novel, or try a wuxia novel by someone else...
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Post by siuyiu on Aug 6, 2018 4:12:34 GMT
kyc thanks for the explanation! as for what wuxia novel to try, do the books come with synopses at the back? if so, that's an obvious way to decide! whichever book you end up choosing, i hope you'll enjoy it!
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Post by kyc on Aug 6, 2018 8:12:56 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion. Eventually I went for another Wang Dulu - Caifeng Yinshe Zhuan 彩凤银蛇传 - and a short novel by Pingjiang Buxiaosheng - 江湖大侠传。
Will take another day to start one, since I'm finishing another novel. My myopia is going to get worse!
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Post by siuyiu on Aug 6, 2018 18:06:24 GMT
kyc lovely! and ooooo, another wuxia author that we know little about (PJBXS). i just know that, along with huan zhu lou zhu, PJBXS is one of the pioneers of the wuxia genre as we know it today. he has his own thread, so once you've finished reading his novel, please share your thoughts in the other thread! ha, if your myopia is getting worse, you may need a better lighting source. just sayin' (not trying to sound like a parent, btw. just wanting you to be able to read many more stories so you can share your experiences with us! isn't that so nice of me? )
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Post by kyc on Aug 7, 2018 6:55:12 GMT
Thanks, siuyiu! My light source is perfectly fine, but I do have poor reading habits (occasional overreading), especially when reading compulsive wuxia novels.
Will post my thoughts on both threads, though it might take a while. The PJBXS novel is one book, but it's still forty chapters!
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Post by siuyiu on Aug 7, 2018 22:09:01 GMT
kyc no rush! enjoy! and i'm glad you have a good light source. i'm prone to overreading myself, so i have no right to admonish anyone about that!
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Post by kyc on Aug 20, 2018 12:29:42 GMT
Right. I've finished another Wang Dulu novel. Caifeng Yinshe Zhuan 彩凤银蛇传.
It is perhaps amongst the most interesting of the four I've read, probably the best written, though the plot isn't the most nail-biting.
On the whole, it's up there with Xianxian Jian, although the former's plot is perhaps more intriguing, the descriptions in Caifeng Yinshe Zhuan are something to die for. The vivid portrayal of nature and women, the psychology of the main protagonist, very sympathetically drawn, and the rather sad last two chapters will draw tears from female fans. Also the very realistic martial arts and the almost cinematic scene-painting are up there amongst the best literature I've read, never mind wuxia.
The plot isn't like I've said the most nail-biting, but it's still enough to make you turn pages.
PLOT: A man arrives at a fishing village running away from his foes. He woes the most beautiful woman in the village. The villagers realize he knows kung-fu; he is asked to fight a brigade on another island. To his surprise he finds a female fighter even more beautiful than his fiancee there...
Like Yun Zhongyue, whom I learned in this forum, Wang Dulu's protagonists all have jobs... you won't be scratching your head wondering where they earn their money...
Next up: rereading one Louis Cha novel, plus one new Gu Long and one Ni Kuang wuxia novel (very short)
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