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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2018 3:04:44 GMT
Looked like she's slapped on her cheeks many times. LOL
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Post by siuyiu on Dec 27, 2018 3:09:01 GMT
To be frank if I had big money I'd probably film a modern version or just time travel the whole cast to the modern age, and turn it into a franchise so we won't always be wrapping up the story again and again. We could finally see a sitcom about Duan Yu and his "cousins" having fun with Xu Zhu's wife and the Four Attendants. And there's Murong Fu, who's discovered the wonders of MMORPG, and after establishing his own virtual empire he plugs his head to the game server and starts materializing said empire on Earth. Good thing was the old Sweeping Monk has predicted this craziness and sealed Xiao Feng's corpse in a healing cycle until the world needs him again...etc Having the wuxia characters transport to modern time --> this is a FRESH idea. Many stories have modern people transport to ancient time. With Huang Yi with his A Step Into the Past, then 步步惊心, and then some other stories and series. But these days there are too many stories of modern people transport to ancient time. So sick and boring of this idea now producers aren't that innovative, yenchin. why don't you write something, publish it, and pray someone will adapt it... *batseyes*
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2018 3:13:41 GMT
kyc : i) Azhu's continuous, lovestruck stares at Qiao Feng is not in the book. They do not fall in love until later. Who cares when you are overhearing the revelation of Qiao Feng's birth... ? ---> since the beginning A Zhu thought that QF was a hero that could be matched with her master - Murong Fu. But she didn't fall in love until later.And no lovestruck stares in the novel. ii) Wang Yuyan is very warm towards Duan Yu, as though he is a very close friend. She smiles at him all the time and at one point they even hold hands. What were the screenwriters thinking? ---> WYY at first was pretty nice to DY, as he's the first outsider she knew outside her maids and her cousin. But holding hands? heck...NO way!!iii) Azhu is deep and reflective in this interpretation, always thinking. Does this fit her character in the book? --> she's pretty mature, but not always deep and reflectiveiv) Wang Yuyan is not cold or ethereal here. She seems more like a pretty girl who is quite friendly and approachable, though no bimbo. Is this in line with the book? ---> NOPEv) The Apricot Forest is just a wooden platform and sheds, not a forest! What happened? Can't they even find a proper forest to shoot the scene? Maybe they can't CGI an entire forest? ---> LOL. now you see why it had poor rating and Hunan TV had to stop airing it. 5) The most damaging part of these episodes: Most of the time, Wallace Chung's Qiao Feng simply lacks the charisma and presence necessary for the role. He has problems emoting, his machismo gusto is not convincing and it's quite obvious he lacks the acting background to depict the angst and shock Qiao Feng experiences when learning the truth about his birth. ---> I could see that. Wallace Chung is pretty good looking, but he's lacking of charisma, imho. Even on DoMD, he as Kangxi, was lack of charisma , even WXB ( HXM) looked more charismatic on that adaptation
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Post by kyc on Dec 27, 2018 3:14:13 GMT
kyc as i'd mentioned, i only watched the bits of interest, so i didn't notice the blatant continuity errors! that's really careless! and yes, i could tell that most of the scenery was CGI. but it didn't bother me because i wasn't looking at the production itself, just focussed on the characterizations. and now that you've pointed it out, yes, the make up is much too heavy, ESPECIALLY for WYY and wang furen. and i agree that, at times, wallace's acting was wooden, esp re: emotional/tear-wringing scenes. i'm generally not as critical of these bits because most actors, esp chinese male actors, have difficulty with emoting--it's a cultural thing. so as long as the scene and dialogue ring true, i let it go. some actors try to hide the fact they can't properly emote by overdoing the wailing/anger, which i find more off-putting than if they were logs. dunno, it's a hard thing to get right. easy to write on the page that the character was anguished. much harder to give an oscar-winning performance. this is not meant to excuse a poor performance--not my intention! but just enjoying having a discussion and putting my two cents in. Now that I have calmed down--A'bi's green/blue costume gave me a bad headache and I had an early night-- Wang Yuyan's cheeks and lips do not look so magenta on my mobile phone screen but her cheeks still look overdone. I compare the makeup with the 2003 version. The earlier Wang Yuyan's makeup looks definitely more natural and does not draw attention to itself. As for A'bi's costume, I think it might be a color correction problem. Maybe the camera they were shooting with has some problems with the white balance. Anyway, it's unlikely they will keep switching costumes during one scene. But still, they ought to have corrected it post-production! I've also calmed down about Wallace Chung's performance. Maybe I expect a lot from the Apricot Forest scene--after all, it's the first scene where Qiao Feng must take center stage and a good actor can actually own the scene. Unfortunately, Chung doesn't do it. But since he was a singer first and not an actor, maybe I'm asking for too much. I have a feeling this production has a much lower budget than the 2003 version. Otherwise, why must they CGI the natural scenery? Also, ask the same actress to play Azhu and Azi? They are probably to keep the overheads down.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2018 3:14:14 GMT
Having the wuxia characters transport to modern time --> this is a FRESH idea. Many stories have modern people transport to ancient time. With Huang Yi with his A Step Into the Past, then 步步惊心, and then some other stories and series. But these days there are too many stories of modern people transport to ancient time. So sick and boring of this idea now producers aren't that innovative, yenchin. why don't you write something, publish it, and pray someone will adapt it... *batseyes* SUPPORT that idea!! go ...go...go yenchin
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Post by kyc on Dec 27, 2018 3:16:01 GMT
Having the wuxia characters transport to modern time --> this is a FRESH idea. Many stories have modern people transport to ancient time. With Huang Yi with his A Step Into the Past, then 步步惊心, and then some other stories and series. But these days there are too many stories of modern people transport to ancient time. So sick and boring of this idea now producers aren't that innovative, yenchin . why don't you write something, publish it, and pray someone will adapt it... *batseyes* Jin Yong (and his descendants) are quite conservative and probably will not give the green light for any "time travel" production based on his novels...
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Post by kyc on Dec 27, 2018 3:18:45 GMT
kyc : i) Azhu's continuous, lovestruck stares at Qiao Feng is not in the book. They do not fall in love until later. Who cares when you are overhearing the revelation of Qiao Feng's birth... ? ---> since the beginning A Zhu thought that QF was a hero that could be matched with her master - Murong Fu. But she didn't fall in love until later.And no lovestruck stares in the novel. ii) Wang Yuyan is very warm towards Duan Yu, as though he is a very close friend. She smiles at him all the time and at one point they even hold hands. What were the screenwriters thinking? ---> WYY at first was pretty nice to DY, as he's the first outsider she knew outside her maids and her cousin. But holding hands? heck...NO way!!iii) Azhu is deep and reflective in this interpretation, always thinking. Does this fit her character in the book? --> she's pretty mature, but not always deep and reflectiveiv) Wang Yuyan is not cold or ethereal here. She seems more like a pretty girl who is quite friendly and approachable, though no bimbo. Is this in line with the book? ---> NOPEv) The Apricot Forest is just a wooden platform and sheds, not a forest! What happened? Can't they even find a proper forest to shoot the scene? Maybe they can't CGI an entire forest? ---> LOL. now you see why it had poor rating and Hunan TV had to stop airing it. 5) The most damaging part of these episodes: Most of the time, Wallace Chung's Qiao Feng simply lacks the charisma and presence necessary for the role. He has problems emoting, his machismo gusto is not convincing and it's quite obvious he lacks the acting background to depict the angst and shock Qiao Feng experiences when learning the truth about his birth. ---> I could see that. Wallace Chung is pretty good looking, but he's lacking of charisma, imho. Even on DoMD, he as Kangxi, was lack of charisma , even WXB ( HXM) looked more charismatic on that adaptation I'm ok with Azhu being more reflective than normal but not the other two changes. A'zhu staring at Qiao Feng during the Apricot Forest scene is distracting and Wang Yuyan is way too warm toward Duan Yu. And also, I understand they need another interpretation of Wang Yuyan, but she's too friendly and approachable in this version. It makes it difficult to match the events of the book.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2018 3:34:12 GMT
kyc : i) Azhu's continuous, lovestruck stares at Qiao Feng is not in the book. They do not fall in love until later. Who cares when you are overhearing the revelation of Qiao Feng's birth... ? ---> since the beginning A Zhu thought that QF was a hero that could be matched with her master - Murong Fu. But she didn't fall in love until later.And no lovestruck stares in the novel. ii) Wang Yuyan is very warm towards Duan Yu, as though he is a very close friend. She smiles at him all the time and at one point they even hold hands. What were the screenwriters thinking? ---> WYY at first was pretty nice to DY, as he's the first outsider she knew outside her maids and her cousin. But holding hands? heck...NO way!!iii) Azhu is deep and reflective in this interpretation, always thinking. Does this fit her character in the book? --> she's pretty mature, but not always deep and reflectiveiv) Wang Yuyan is not cold or ethereal here. She seems more like a pretty girl who is quite friendly and approachable, though no bimbo. Is this in line with the book? ---> NOPEv) The Apricot Forest is just a wooden platform and sheds, not a forest! What happened? Can't they even find a proper forest to shoot the scene? Maybe they can't CGI an entire forest? ---> LOL. now you see why it had poor rating and Hunan TV had to stop airing it. 5) The most damaging part of these episodes: Most of the time, Wallace Chung's Qiao Feng simply lacks the charisma and presence necessary for the role. He has problems emoting, his machismo gusto is not convincing and it's quite obvious he lacks the acting background to depict the angst and shock Qiao Feng experiences when learning the truth about his birth. ---> I could see that. Wallace Chung is pretty good looking, but he's lacking of charisma, imho. Even on DoMD, he as Kangxi, was lack of charisma , even WXB ( HXM) looked more charismatic on that adaptation I'm ok with Azhu being more reflective than normal but not the other two changes. A'zhu staring at Qiao Feng during the Apricot Forest scene is distracting and Wang Yuyan is way too warm toward Duan Yu. And also, I understand they need another interpretation of Wang Yuyan, but she's too friendly and approachable in this version. It makes it difficult to match the events of the book. Agree. The brief summary about DY and WYY in the novel is that DY was so much in love toward WYY, but WYY ignore him. The 4 bodyguards of DY's father was so irritated to see how DY as a Prince of Dali was head over heels toward WYY at a point that he degraded himself, including tailing WYY when it was obvious WYY was uncomfortable to see him around. MRF and his men also showed their dislike attitude toward DY who followed them, but DY just didn't care as long as he could see WYY
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Post by siuyiu on Dec 28, 2018 0:18:05 GMT
producers aren't that innovative, yenchin . why don't you write something, publish it, and pray someone will adapt it... *batseyes* Jin Yong (and his descendants) are quite conservative and probably will not give the green light for any "time travel" production based on his novels... i vote that yenchin tackle LYS
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Post by kyc on Dec 28, 2018 2:36:51 GMT
Jin Yong (and his descendants) are quite conservative and probably will not give the green light for any "time travel" production based on his novels... i vote that yenchin tackle LYS I don't know about LYS but concerning Jin Yong there was the sad case of Jiang Nan being sued. www.sino-us.com/10/13330697098.html
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Post by galvatron prime on Dec 29, 2018 10:46:13 GMT
producers aren't that innovative, yenchin . why don't you write something, publish it, and pray someone will adapt it... *batseyes* Jin Yong (and his descendants) are quite conservative and probably will not give the green light for any "time travel" production based on his novels... That is a movie and a TVB drama which feature Wai Siu Bo From Duke Of Mouth Deer In Time Travel Hero – Beyond the Boundary of Time 正牌韋小寶之奉旨溝女 Is A Spin-off Of with Tony Leung reprising his role as "Wai Siu Bo from the 1984 television series adaption of the same novel who Travel in 1992. The Reincarnated of Wai 摩登小寶 Is A TVB drama About Ghost Of Wai Siu Bo Possession Into modern guy Eddie Cheung Body in 1989. Eddie Cheung replace Tony Leung in That drama.
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Post by kyc on Dec 29, 2018 11:51:48 GMT
Point taken. But it's safer to seek the estate's approval first before embarking on a novel with Jin Yong characters. More Jin Yong movies coming up: "Ho’s first Jin project — the title of which has not yet been disclosed — will mark 852's first foray into the mainland Chinese film market (her company has co-produced the London-set How to Talk to Girls at Parties; Hong Kong director Pang Ho-cheung’s Dream Home, in which Ho starred; and Revenge: A Love Story, featuring singer-actor-director Juno Mak). 852 has partnered with China’s The One Media Group, which bought the mainland film adaptation rights to Jin’s major works for an undisclosed sum in September. Also under The One Media banner, Tsui is set to direct a new trilogy based on The Return of the Condor Heroes, with longtime creative partner Nansun Shi producing. Tsui has said his hit Swordsman films were a warm-up for him to adapt Return of the Condor Heroes, which was the first wuxia novel he ever read. “It ignited my passion for the wuxia genre and my fascination with the wuxia world,” the legendary director said at a September news conference announcing the One Media projects. “The film rights, production technology and market potential weren’t available for me to direct this film adaptation back then, so I’ve been waiting all this time to do it.” The considerable popularity of Jin's novels in mainland China — where his books were embraced passionately after the country opened its doors in the 1980s (late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping was among his fans) — combined with the fact that there have been no recent movie adaptations, could mean enormous box-office potential for the property in the current marketplace. Apart from Tsui’s trilogy and Ho’s franchise ambitions, director Gordon Chan (Painted Skin) is slated to helm an adaptation of Legend of the Condor Heroes (the precursor to Return) for Hong Kong powerhouse Media Asia. Meanwhile, Sun Entertainment Culture is adapting The Book and the Sword, Jin’s 1955 debut novel, to be written by James Yuen (The Warlords) and directed by Jacob Cheung (Cageman)." www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-why-a-famed-chinese-novelist-is-sparking-marvel-like-dreams-china-1110041
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Post by yenchin on Jan 2, 2019 10:13:51 GMT
Jin Yong (and his descendants) are quite conservative and probably will not give the green light for any "time travel" production based on his novels... i vote that yenchin tackle LYS LOL. Well we have some Lu SiNiang and Yong Zheng comedy in The King of Yesterday and Tomorrow so at least some material has overlapped. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Yesterday_and_Tomorrow
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Post by siuyiu on Jan 3, 2019 2:14:34 GMT
yenchin oh right, forgot about that series. never really watched it--the premise bored me. not a fan of kong wah either.
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Post by yenchin on Jan 14, 2019 12:32:54 GMT
yenchin oh right, forgot about that series. never really watched it--the premise bored me. not a fan of kong wah either. LOL. When it was on the stations the broadcast time was bad so I couldn't get to watch the whole thing. And while it seems like an interesting idea to toy upon, I just really can't stand Lu Siniang and Yongzheng (who executed the whole Lu family) falling in love.
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