kyc : yes, I know Hokkien and Hakka are very different. I could spot the difference in my ears easily. I have to say that Hakka sounds more 'soft' compare to Hokkien.
I didn't know that Hakka are minorities both in Singapore and Malaysia. In Indonesia, Hakka should be the 2nd after Hokkien. Chinese from Bangka, Belitung, and Borneo islands are mostly Hakka. And although they're not a minority, but they are very enclosed. Right now it's much better, but even 15 years ago, a marriage between a Hakka and a Hokkien was pretty rare in Indonesia. Because the Hakka mostly only allowed their children to marry Hakka only.
galvatron prime , glad to know you are Hakka. I am one too. Both my parents are Hakka and it's my first language as a child. Unfortunately, very few Hakkas in Singapore now speak the language.
siuyiu and Admin , actually Hakka is very different from Hokkien. I speak Hakka and I have MAJOR problems with Hokkien. I don't find Hokkien easy at all, it's very different from Hakka, Mandarin (which I have no problem with) or Cantonese. Hokkien pronunciation is completely different, whereas Hakka and Cantonese share certain terms.
Hakka is more like Cantonese, though not so alike that Cantonese speakers can understand Hakka. Many, maybe in Malaysia most, Hakkas can speak Cantonese.
Hakkas are probably forced to pick up more Chinese dialects/languages than any other minority. My uncles, aunts, parents speak Hokkien, Cantonese, Hakka, Mandarin. When she visited Hong Kong years ago, the Hong Kongers thought that my mum was from Macau. She picked it up easily watching TVB dramas. She often speaks Cantonese to my brother-in-law, a native Cantonese. Although I understand Cantonese 80%, I don't speak it. There are similarities between the two dialects that will prove pitfalls for a Hakka speaker. I was born after the Singaporean government banned Chinese dialects to promote Mandarin on official media, otherwise I too might have picked up Cantonese. My brother speaks Cantonese to his wife, another native Cantonese speaker.
Lots of Hong Kong actors and actresses are really ethnic Hakkas, e.g. Leslie Cheung, Cherie Cheung, Wallace Chung, Jordan Chan, Eric Tsang etc. etc. Because we are a minority, Hakkas almost always have to pick up another dialect when they live in another non-Hakka place.
thank you for this! and to Admin as well for the input! definitely speakers of hokkien and hakka are in a better position to say whether they are similar! i sit corrected!
and that is a sad reality regarding the hakka needing to assimilate other dialects in order to find a foothold in whatever place they settle into!
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