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Post by siuyiu on Jun 4, 2016 21:55:33 GMT
i'm sure there's a wuxia character whose story ending you didn't like or didn't agree with or felt could have turned out differently. here's your chance to re-write!
so, please tell us who that character is and what "new" fate you would give him or her?
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 9, 2016 6:54:33 GMT
i'm sure there's a wuxia character whose story ending you didn't like or didn't agree with or felt could have turned out differently. here's your chance to re-write! so, please tell us who that character is and what "new" fate you would give him or her? I think Yang Kang die too early in LOCH ,he shall be the real main villain with he learning all the kung fu from Ouyang Feng and have a final fight with Guo Jing in Wah Shan tournament . He lose the final battle and finally regret his action. I think this idiot guy You Tanzhi (游坦之) from DGSD shall become more cunning and smart character,he shall used Ah Chi as prawn and slave and not stupid used by her ,this dude shall become the main villain and become a great fighter and only a combine from Qiao Feng,Xuzhu and Duan Yu kung fu can defeat him in final. siuyiu What about yours ? |
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 10, 2016 1:49:06 GMT
@galvatron iiiiinteresting re-writes! can't say i'd have much sympathy for ah chi in this new version of things! as for your yang kang premise, does that mean yang guo would have grown up with his father around? but then yang guo would turn out a different person, thus changing the entire premise of ROCH! for one thing, he wouldn't've looked to guo jing as a father figure and role model. secondly, he would never have met his gu-gu. as for my own re-writes, i haven't thought much about it--the topic was just a sudden thought--but i guess, off the bat: [1] zhang wuji would not have ended up with zhao min. he would've retired from jianghu, definitely, but with some other girl--i just don't see zhao min being able to give it all up. [2] BXJ would feature more of jin she lang jun and less of yuan chengzi--and i really don't care if that screws up the premise of the entire novel  [3] li xunhuan would snap out of his self-pity and grow some balls |
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 10, 2016 8:02:46 GMT
@galvatron iiiiinteresting re-writes! can't say i'd have much sympathy for ah chi in this new version of things! as for your yang kang premise, does that mean yang guo would have grown up with his father around? but then yang guo would turn out a different person, thus changing the entire premise of ROCH! for one thing, he wouldn't've looked to guo jing as a father figure and role model. secondly, he would never have met his gu-gu. as for my own re-writes, i haven't thought much about it--the topic was just a sudden thought--but i guess, off the bat: [1] zhang wuji would not have ended up with zhao min. he would've retired from jianghu, definitely, but with some other girl--i just don't see zhao min being able to give it all up. [2] BXJ would feature more of jin she lang jun and less of yuan chengzi--and i really don't care if that screws up the premise of the entire novel [3] li xunhuan would snap out of his self-pity and grow some balls My first version is Yang Kang already died before Yang Guo was born,he died from injury from fight with Guo Jing ,before he die he regret his action,Ouyang Feng already killed by Yang Kang before the Wah Shan Tournament . My 2nd version is Yang Kang get killed by Jin army after he regret his action ,he lost all his kung fu skill that why he got killed by Jin army. Well if he not died ,Yang Guo may never meet Gu Gu . By the way who is BXJ? |
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 10, 2016 12:39:09 GMT
so either way, yang guo is still fatherless when growing up. i just assumed that, after his regrets, yang kang would live to an old age with mu nianci. BXJ = bi xue jian, the novel |
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Post by yenchin on Jun 16, 2016 6:15:37 GMT
Let me give a shot! What if...Bao Xiruo successfully fled to Mongolia while Li Ping successfully evaded Duan Tiande and was protected by Wanyen Honglie, instead? Yang Kang would've been brought up by the Mongolians, during the encounter with Zhe Bie, I guess he might've handled it better, so basically he still ends up with Genghis Khan. He is discovered by the 7 Freaks, trains (more successfully, I assume), gets tested and uses his wits to improvise most situations where he is overpowered, gets trained by Ma Yu, kills Chen Shuanfeng by luck and later heads to the south when he's 18 with promises from the Khan of getting married with Hua Zheng... Guo Jing, despite being brought up by the Jurchens, probably wouldn't be much favored by Wanyen Honglie since Li Ping is merely under his protection. He gets discovered by Qiu Chuji and goes through a formal Chuanzhen style training. He despises the other Wulin people hanging out with Wanyen Honglie, and Mei Chaofeng, with her manipulation, learns a lot from him, thus eventually accomplishing her understanding of the Nine Yin Manual. One day, while on the streets, he sees a guy called "Mu Yi" holding a stage with his "daughter", asking anyone interested in marrying her to fight her. A youth, similar to Guo's age, under urge of his companion, who's sound seems girlish, leaps to the stage to fight... I'll stop here since my memory of LOCH is kind of failing |
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 16, 2016 23:12:23 GMT
yenchin ahahahaha, the condor trilogy forever rewrit with this swap! given that WYHL lusted after BXR, it's possible he'd've turned LP and GJ out as soon as they were able to fend for themselves... so who knows, then, what GJ's fate would've been... ha, he might've legitimately joined the beggar clan, though i doubt H7G would've paid any attention to the "stupid" one among so many underlings.
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Post by yenchin on Jun 17, 2016 2:19:22 GMT
yenchin ahahahaha, the condor trilogy forever rewrit with this swap! given that WYHL lusted after BXR, it's possible he'd've turned LP and GJ out as soon as they were able to fend for themselves... so who knows, then, what GJ's fate would've been... ha, he might've legitimately joined the beggar clan, though i doubt H7G would've paid any attention to the "stupid" one among so many underlings. Ah, yes, joining the beggar clan would probably be a more reasonable development. Though since Qiu is still out there looking for GJ for story's sake eventually he discovers him and gets trained. I guess that makes GJ equipped with some basic Beggar Clan martial arts and Chuanzhen Sect stuff, and when he's 18 his superior allows him to seek out YK as well. For story's sake we let them still meet at the stage. Assuming MNC is YK's type and HR is still attracted to GJ their romances still develop normally. Since WYHL now understands that YTX is still alive he sends out his men to hunt him, assuming that BXR is with him. YTX dies and YK now vows to take revenge, with GJ and HR joining him. In his first attempt to assassinate WYHL the gang encounters MCF and MCF is still able to get some essentials from GJ. What follows I guess becomes a bit tricky. Since the Freaks aren't mentoring GJ, I guess they don't have much to say of him dating HR. Thus there will be no "WE FORBID YOU!!" . The Chuanzhen Sect, on the other hand, are still anxious of ZBT's fate and probably might interfere, so the encounter with H7G might still happen. Of course we might still have GJ's Beggar Clan roots in play so I guess for drama's sake, he definitely would find himself between the opposing factions of the Clan. YK, now obsessed in killing WYHL, probably will do anything to train himself and kill WYHL. I guess I'll stop my speculation here. It seems that this is diverting a lot that it requires a fanfic. |
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 17, 2016 6:16:06 GMT
@galvatron iiiiinteresting re-writes! can't say i'd have much sympathy for ah chi in this new version of things! as for your yang kang premise, does that mean yang guo would have grown up with his father around? but then yang guo would turn out a different person, thus changing the entire premise of ROCH! for one thing, he wouldn't've looked to guo jing as a father figure and role model. secondly, he would never have met his gu-gu. as for my own re-writes, i haven't thought much about it--the topic was just a sudden thought--but i guess, off the bat: [1] zhang wuji would not have ended up with zhao min. he would've retired from jianghu, definitely, but with some other girl--i just don't see zhao min being able to give it all up. [2] BXJ would feature more of jin she lang jun and less of yuan chengzi--and i really don't care if that screws up the premise of the entire novel [3] li xunhuan would snap out of his self-pity and grow some balls I think if You Tanzhi was acted by more popular actor in TVB in 1982 version by Simon Yam ,Ray Lui ,Michael Mui or 1997 version by Louis Koo,Frankie Lam,Jackie Lui ,Sunny Chan etc ,this guy story line could be different.He shall be the main character in the novel You Tianzhi could begin as a naive,brave or idiot and he may fall love to Ah Chi but after some torture from her ,he have enough of it ,this guy have evolved into more smart ,cunning ,brutal along the way ,he first used Ah Chi to test the poison like scorpion etc for his kung fu skill ,then use fire to burn Ah Chi face ,force her to wear mask ,he then make Song ,Khitan ,Dali ,Xi xia fight each other and working for Wang nan Aguda the founder of Jin Dynasty . He later become too powerful and before Ah Chi death ,he told Qiao Feng You Tianzhi can only defeated if Qiao Feng,Xuzhu and Duan Yu combine it kung fu into one ,after killed You ,Qiao Feng retire from wulin and went to India. Well TVB already have one drama called Golden Snake Sword ,it focus on jin she lang jun which start by Ekin Cheng ,it may be not the same jin she lang jun guy in the novel. What do you think? |
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 18, 2016 6:36:13 GMT
yenchin ahahahaha, the condor trilogy forever rewrit with this swap! given that WYHL lusted after BXR, it's possible he'd've turned LP and GJ out as soon as they were able to fend for themselves... so who knows, then, what GJ's fate would've been... ha, he might've legitimately joined the beggar clan, though i doubt H7G would've paid any attention to the "stupid" one among so many underlings. Ah, yes, joining the beggar clan would probably be a more reasonable development. Though since Qiu is still out there looking for GJ for story's sake eventually he discovers him and gets trained. I guess that makes GJ equipped with some basic Beggar Clan martial arts and Chuanzhen Sect stuff, and when he's 18 his superior allows him to seek out YK as well. For story's sake we let them still meet at the stage. Assuming MNC is YK's type and HR is still attracted to GJ their romances still develop normally. Since WYHL now understands that YTX is still alive he sends out his men to hunt him, assuming that BXR is with him. YTX dies and YK now vows to take revenge, with GJ and HR joining him. In his first attempt to assassinate WYHL the gang encounters MCF and MCF is still able to get some essentials from GJ. What follows I guess becomes a bit tricky. Since the Freaks aren't mentoring GJ, I guess they don't have much to say of him dating HR. Thus there will be no "WE FORBID YOU!!" . The Chuanzhen Sect, on the other hand, are still anxious of ZBT's fate and probably might interfere, so the encounter with H7G might still happen. Of course we might still have GJ's Beggar Clan roots in play so I guess for drama's sake, he definitely would find himself between the opposing factions of the Clan. YK, now obsessed in killing WYHL, probably will do anything to train himself and kill WYHL. I guess I'll stop my speculation here. It seems that this is diverting a lot that it requires a fanfic. i want fanfic, i want fanfic! |
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Post by siuyiu on Jun 18, 2016 6:38:54 GMT
@galvatron iiiiinteresting re-writes! can't say i'd have much sympathy for ah chi in this new version of things! as for your yang kang premise, does that mean yang guo would have grown up with his father around? but then yang guo would turn out a different person, thus changing the entire premise of ROCH! for one thing, he wouldn't've looked to guo jing as a father figure and role model. secondly, he would never have met his gu-gu. as for my own re-writes, i haven't thought much about it--the topic was just a sudden thought--but i guess, off the bat: [1] zhang wuji would not have ended up with zhao min. he would've retired from jianghu, definitely, but with some other girl--i just don't see zhao min being able to give it all up. [2] BXJ would feature more of jin she lang jun and less of yuan chengzi--and i really don't care if that screws up the premise of the entire novel [3] li xunhuan would snap out of his self-pity and grow some balls I think if You Tanzhi was acted by more popular actor in TVB in 1982 version by Simon Yam ,Ray Lui ,Michael Mui or 1997 version by Louis Koo,Frankie Lam,Jackie Lui ,Sunny Chan etc ,this guy story line could be different.He shall be the main character in the novel You Tianzhi could begin as a naive,brave or idiot and he may fall love to Ah Chi but after some torture from her ,he have enough of it ,this guy have evolved into more smart ,cunning ,brutal along the way ,he first used Ah Chi to test the poison like scorpion etc for his kung fu skill ,then use fire to burn Ah Chi face ,force her to wear mask ,he then make Song ,Khitan ,Dali ,Xi xia fight each other and working for Wang nan Aguda the founder of Jin Dynasty . He later become too powerful and before Ah Chi death ,he told Qiao Feng You Tianzhi can only defeated if Qiao Feng,Xuzhu and Duan Yu combine it kung fu into one ,after killed You ,Qiao Feng retire from wulin and went to India. Well TVB already have one drama called Golden Snake Sword ,it focus on jin she lang jun which start by Ekin Cheng ,it may be not the same jin she lang jun guy in the novel. What do you think? your version of YTZ might justify having a bigger name actor play him. the original one wouldn't.  yes, i know of the drama starring ekin, but i've never watched it, so i have no idea if it's a faithful version--well, "faithful" as in characterization. i doubt the storyline would be that faithful, given that JSLJ's appearance was more like a cameo in the books. does anyone know if the adaptation is good? |
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 20, 2016 6:23:51 GMT
siuyiu I think if You Tanzhi was acted by more popular actor in TVB in 1982 version by Simon Yam ,Ray Lui ,Michael Mui or 1997 version by Louis Koo,Frankie Lam,Jackie Lui ,Sunny Chan etc ,this guy story line could be different.He shall be the main character in the novel You Tianzhi could begin as a naive,brave or idiot and he may fall love to Ah Chi but after some torture from her ,he have enough of it ,this guy have evolved into more smart ,cunning ,brutal along the way ,he first used Ah Chi to test the poison like scorpion etc for his kung fu skill ,then use fire to burn Ah Chi face ,force her to wear mask ,he then make Song ,Khitan ,Dali ,Xi xia fight each other and working for Wang nan Aguda the founder of Jin Dynasty . He later become too powerful and before Ah Chi death ,he told Qiao Feng You Tianzhi can only defeated if Qiao Feng,Xuzhu and Duan Yu combine it kung fu into one ,after killed You ,Qiao Feng retire from wulin and went to India. Well TVB already have one drama called Golden Snake Sword ,it focus on jin she lang jun which start by Ekin Cheng ,it may be not the same jin she lang jun guy in the novel. What do you think? your version of YTZ might justify having a bigger name actor play him. the original one wouldn't. yes, i know of the drama starring ekin, but i've never watched it, so i have no idea if it's a faithful version--well, "faithful" as in characterization. i doubt the storyline would be that faithful, given that JSLJ's appearance was more like a cameo in the books. does anyone know if the adaptation is good? siuyiu The Golden Snake Sword 金蛇郎君 by TVB was not really adaption from the JY novel,it was prequel to the novel , i view however the serial is ok . You can watch it here ,but in Mandarin version v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMwMjU1NDQ=.htmlAnd the topics here if you want to discuss more wuxiasociety.freeforums.net/thread/208/golden-snake-sword-tvbTVB in the early 1990an have make prequal to the JY novel like Kim Mo Tuk Ku Kau Pai 劍魔獨孤求敗 , Rage and Passion 中神通王重陽, The Mystery of the Condor Hero射雕英雄傳之九陰真經 , The Condor Heroes Return,射鵰英雄傳之南帝北丐 The Legend of the Golden Lion 金毛獅王 before the release of Julian Cheung The Legend of the Condor Heroes 1994 射鵰英雄傳 . |
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Post by galvatron prime on Jun 20, 2016 6:40:15 GMT
@galvatron iiiiinteresting re-writes! can't say i'd have much sympathy for ah chi in this new version of things! as for your yang kang premise, does that mean yang guo would have grown up with his father around? but then yang guo would turn out a different person, thus changing the entire premise of ROCH! for one thing, he wouldn't've looked to guo jing as a father figure and role model. secondly, he would never have met his gu-gu. as for my own re-writes, i haven't thought much about it--the topic was just a sudden thought--but i guess, off the bat: [1] zhang wuji would not have ended up with zhao min. he would've retired from jianghu, definitely, but with some other girl--i just don't see zhao min being able to give it all up. [2] BXJ would feature more of jin she lang jun and less of yuan chengzi--and i really don't care if that screws up the premise of the entire novel [3] li xunhuan would snap out of his self-pity and grow some balls You seem you don't like Zhao Min, am i right ? She is a good and cuter version of Ah Zhi ,she not that bad . Is Zhang Wuji a good looking and handsome guy in the novel ? |
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Post by reinafu on Jun 20, 2016 17:46:56 GMT
If I understand well, Legend of thegolden lion is also related to The legend of the condor heroes ?
Is there a Mandarin version somewhere ? I only watched it in Thai language and there seemed to have a bad order in the episodes, so,I didn't understand much fo this series and I don't even remember what it is about !
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Post by reinafu on Jun 20, 2016 17:54:40 GMT
I agree with Galvatron that Zhao Min Min is a better character than the one played by Angie Chiu in Heaven Swor and dragon sabre. This latter didn't hesitate to sacrifice her said love for Zhang Wuji and to kill the girl who used poisons in the island, just to obey her shifu's willings, while Zhao Min Min, though she didn't always did good deeds due to her father's orders, never gave up her love for Zhang Wu Ji, being even ready to give up her life for him. At least, it's what I understood of the series when I watched it, but I don't know how it's faithful to the book...
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